More than one car?

Discussion in 'Protest' started by verseau_miracle, Oct 29, 2005.

  1. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: Also if you do not yet know of the damage car fumes and cars themselves cause to our planet i would suggest you research this

    First off, you're French. I understand how you feel. French people cannot drive, and they park all over the place, and France is a filthy festering pit of stale urine and diesel soot.

    The United States, on the other hand, is not. Americans MUST drive, they do so very well except in Boston and California. A vehicle is NOT a luxury in the USA.
     
  2. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Did you ever question whether or not all those cars were necessary?

    P.s-Nice owl
     
  3. verseau_miracle

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    Excuse me do i know you? What on Earth makes you assume i am French?....The fact that i used a French word in my screen name? Silly me, i forgot...English and American people do not need to be able to speak foreign languages. I must be French.

    P.s-If i WAS French it would be an honour. I find France is a beautiful part of our world
     
  4. IronGoth

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    RE: Excuse me do i know you? What on Earth makes you assume i am French?....

    Word order and word choice. I take it English is NOT your first language?

    RE: The fact that i used a French word in my screen name? Silly me, i forgot...English and American people do not need to be able to speak foreign languages. I must be French.

    N'assumez rien. Meme que je viens de ce continent, je suis capable de m'exprimer et en Anglais, et en Francais - meme le Vietnamien.

    Point being, Europe is a clogged cesspit and hellhole. I can understand your hatred of concrete and cars if you're used to diesel shoeboxes driven recklessly by Eurotrash.

    P.s-If i WAS French it would be an honour. I find France is a beautiful part of our world
     
  5. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Could you give me some examples of what you see to be poor syntax and lexical choice in my posts?
     
  6. Leopold Plumtree

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    That's scarcely the fault of cars themselves. I dunno the particulars of these incidents, but barring some kinda mechanical failure, it was either the driver's fault or your own. Either way, it probably wasn't the vehicle.

    Accidents happen. No one's ever completely safe. Life itself is dangerous. No one's gettin' outta it alive. But while we're here, we might as well enjoy the conveniences available to us. Overall, driving is very reasonably safe, at least around where I am.

    Yup, cars are everywhere. That's because people are also everywhere. People with things to do, places to go, and schedules to keep. People with no time for misguided idealism.

    The harm bein' done is questionable at best. Unless ya live in some shithole city, fumes prob'ly aren't gonna much problem.

    All the time, but I realize it's out of my hands, as well.
     
  7. verseau_miracle

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    People with things to do and places to go? Im a person with things to do and places to go, as is every member of my family. Yet we do not own a single car.

    Yes thank you, i do realise cars are not capable of murder without a person behind the wheel. Its the whole concept i dislike. The car, the driving of it, the children run over by both the car and the driving.

    Out of your hands? The future is in the hands of every single one of us. If everyone cut down on the amount of electricity and heating they used, we would have a hell of a lot of saved energy. If half the worlds population did this we would still have saved energy. If one person did...guess what? Wed have saved energy. Its the same with everything, including cars.

    If you see this as misguided idealism and not just pure logic it makes me wonder whether you ever attended school.

    -Maxi
     
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    P.s-Sorry that was harsh. But it just frustrates me you see an honest wish for a better world as "misguided idealism". Do you have any ideas as to how my idealism could be guided more constructively?
     
  9. Leopold Plumtree

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    Well lucky you. What kinds of distances must you traverse to get to where you need to be?

    You try to associate cars with death, but that fact remains they're quite safe. There's always some risk involved, but there's really nothing a person can do that doesn't have some.

    I'm not talkin' 'bout bein' wasteful or excessive. Cars have their place, and a pretty big place at that. That's unlikely to change. We might as well use what's available to us to our benefit.

    I didn't realize your biased samples counted as pure logic.
     
  10. Leopold Plumtree

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    Ya can figure that out for yourself. If ya wanna do as ya were, and feel it's the right thing to do, carry on.
     
  11. IronGoth

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    RE: Could you give me some examples of what you see to be poor syntax and lexical choice

    Not poor. Just different.

    RE: Out of your hands? The future is in the hands of every single one of us. If everyone cut down on the amount of electricity and heating they used, we would have a hell of a lot of saved energy

    My God you are weird. Typical everything is a zero sum game Euro.

    PS you CANNOT live in this country without a car unless you live in a ghetto and have no job.
     
  12. IronGoth

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    RE: Well lucky you. What kinds of distances must you traverse to et to where you need to be?

    She lives in a centralised city where she walks from her 125 sq ft apartment to the subway station and goes one station over to her place of work.
     
  13. IronGoth

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    RE: P.s-Sorry that was harsh. But it just frustrates me you see an honest wish for a better world as "misguided idealism"

    No, just a lack of logical thinking. Just because peope don't drive doesn't mean that the government will suddenly build railway lines between towns and subways to take you from ANY point A to ANY point B. That works in Euroville because people live in huddled shoeboxes at very most 100yd from the city center.


    An example - one of the last jobs I had was in Redmond, WA - and I live south of Seattle. By bus it took me TWO AND A HALF HOURS each way to commute - and I had to get to Redmond before seven AM cause that was when the last bus of the day went to where I worked (or, I could have walked the ten miles...)

    And they had no clue why more people didn't use public transit.

    I used a motorcycle to commute - rode 125mi per day - impossible by bus or RER or metro or any other socialist utopia planning program.
     
  14. Leopold Plumtree

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    I wouldn't even want to live in a place packed enough for public transport. I stay away from crowded metro areas. They're just not the kinds of places I want to be should a crisis arise and infrastructure (like public transport) crashes. I try to avoid centralization for its vulnerability.
     
  15. IronGoth

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    You're SCREWED in Europe.
     
  16. wiggy

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    my mum has a car and i only get lifts when she is going to work etc. I usually walk most places - i dont get taxi's or buses - i agree we use and rely on cars to much.
     
  17. IronGoth

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    RE: i agree we use and rely on cars to much

    How long do you think it would take you to walk fifty five miles to work?
     
  18. Sera Michele

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    I think a better alternative to public transportation for Americans is environmentally friendly cars. Our cities and suburbs are too far spread out and we have way too much country to give everyone decent public transportation. Not to mention there is way too much infastructure in place in our cities to start tearing them apart to put in a subway or passenger trains. Electric cars, hydro-electric cars, and the such are our future.

    Fortunatly, with rising gas prices, we are seeing a lot more effort being put into this technology. We have hybrid (gas/electric) SUVs now, and this is all just a start. I wish this progress would move a little fasster, though...
     
  19. IronGoth

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    RE: I think a better alternative to public transportation for Americans is environmentally friendly cars

    They can't go the distance, and even then, that only moves the pollutants elsewhere.

    Sure H2 cars only produce water and CO2, but the hydrogen cracking plant is far worse than any traffic jam with petrochemical fuels would be.
     
  20. Sera Michele

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    Unfortunatly I don't know much about the technology and science behind all this stuff.

    Is there no clean way to transport ourselves? I guess maybe we'll have to go back to horse and buggy, but then we'll have to clean the horseshit off the roads [​IMG]
     

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