More Facebook Bullshit!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by MayQueen~420~, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    A big factor will be how many corporations adopt these policies. It's a minority now, but that could flip in a year.

    Most people who work for big companies do it because they don't have a better option. If you're ever out of work for a very long time, we'll see how idealistic you are after you've lost your house and missed a few meals. It happens all the time. :( Priorities change.

    One piece of good news here is the rise of small business. They now employ a very significant percentage of the US work force, and it's growing rapidly. Their employee policies tend to be much more reasonable. And those policies are set by somebody you know, not some stranger who won't take your calls, in an office tower 1000 miles away. You can talk to the boss about your concerns.

    I'm very happy that I made the switch to the small business world several years ago. :) Life is a lot better here.

    Another significant exception to the anti-privacy trend is public education, where they prefer that employees not be on Facebook. It stirs up too many controversies with kids and parents.

    Exactly. This is where Orwell was a little off. Big Brother is corporate America, not the government. But he was still on the right track, especially when he talked about all the horrific social and personal consequences.
     
  2. jamgrassphan

    jamgrassphan Get up offa that thing Lifetime Supporter

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    Believe me when I say I've been in that situation, and your point is well taken. But people have to understand that no matter who they work for, mortgages, credit card debt, student loan debt, all debt should be avoided like grim death. DEBT is SLAVERY. The cards are already stacked against working people, the pitfalls lay every where. I came to the realization shortly after college (funny how a looming student loan payment can do that). This isn't a function or side-effect of the free market. There is no such thing as a free market. This is a deliberate and premeditated plot to privatize the government and enslave the rest of us, who aren't in on the coup.

    There is a choice:

    1) Demand a standard of living that can only be achieved through massive debt, and thus become a slave, living in a nice house , with a nice car, that's owned by a bank, who intends to do everything in it's power to keep you from paying back what you owe, but rather is designed to force you to pay so much more than you really owe, or agreed to owe, or thought you were agreeing to owe.

    2) Re-evaluate your standard of living to accommodate an acceptable amount of freedom and independence from the systems that want nothing more from you than to work as much as you can for as little as possible, and die prematurely of heart disease and/or cancer, so that you do not live long enough to burden a Social Security coffer that has long since been pilfered by them - either directly or indirectly.
     
  3. wyliecoyote

    wyliecoyote Member

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    Thats just wrong, where the fuck are we headed ?
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I smell bullshit too.

    You hear this one pop up now and then, but I havent seen any evidence of it. For it would open up the corporation to risk of discrimination or privacy law discrimination.

    Particularly wiyh discrimination, implied discrimination can be enough for a law suit, it doesnt have to be said out loud.

    Getting knocked back just on the contents of a facebook profile alone would be enough to sue.

    Getting knocked back on refusing to hand over the password itself qlone would be enough to sue. And most big companies anyway arent going to want the negative publicity for a processthat wouodnt have any gain.

    Too much of a legal minefield to be real
     
  5. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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  6. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    My piss is only laden with coffee.
    My brain is laden with dangerous ideas.
     
  7. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    In other years here in the South, blacks and Jews were not getting jobs from The Man, so they banded together and formed their own companies, their own societies and schools.
    That did not eliminate discrimination, but it bypassed some of it.

    Our local version of widely syndicated newspaper Creative Loafing has job listings for a reason. If you are counterculture in any way, you have options.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I don't understand this. Obviously there is a large difference between looking at your facebook page (righteously, wether it serves a purpose or not) and demanding your password? Job interviewers and bosses can try to demand what they want but I don't see any sense in asking for a password for some social profile? Also, because giving passwords to other people is never advised why in earth would you comply to such a demand?
    Since people are talking about this here without mentioning how weird it is they actually ask a password of you I am probably missing something? Enlighten me please :p
     
  9. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    Ethics aside, giving a password away violates most of what I was taught in the workplace. It is very bad practice and I would consider such a request as a test of my judgement.

    If the interviewer actually wants it, I would say, "this interview is over" and report him or her to that person's supervisor. Worst case scenario: If it is corporate policy, I would boycott that company.

    I know that people are desperate for jobs, but are you going to sell out everything you believe for a crust of bread?
     
  10. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Indeed, I would ask first how in earth they get the idea that they are allowed to demand a password from me.... Seems a very wrong practice and they're not entitled at all to claim such a right. So it seems almost bogus to me that they will ask me this here in the netherlands. Of course I'm a bit less familair with the U.S. ethics but it seems (most of) you are less suprised.
     
  11. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    for myself? no. for my (hypothetical) children? most definitely.
     
  12. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    Well, you can infiltrate and change to a "no snoop" policy when you reach a position of great power and influence.
     
  13. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i've never understood the market for facebook. nor media on the internet either. damd sure not what i log on for. the internet, the virtue of it, the bennifit of it, the usefulness of it, is for everyone to be able to create and share OUR OWN content, INSTEAD of having to be passively brainwashed by corporate media.

    if i gave a rat about actually meeting people, i'd get off my fat butt, walk out the door, and go meet people.
     
  14. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Well "some people" have yet to evolve to a degree where they have tapped that point of personal insights comfortably enough to feel confident enough to fly on their own in that department so then the media and marketing can serve to bring them to such a point, or at least "Occupy them" till they do.

    Granted I should include I think whether this process as we see now is being used in as truly a beneficial manner as it could be,,, we're slow to change but I think if we look we can find alot more positive examples of positive forms of public media formats,,,


    i.e.

    http://www.fox.com/fringe/
     
  15. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Sure I'll give you my FB password. Just as long as you don't mind if I do a full cavity search on your asshole
     
  16. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    :rofl:
     
  17. Black_Books

    Black_Books Member

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    At my University, they are regulating what you can and cannot post on Facebook or Twitter and it has been made clear if you disobey there will be severe punishments.

    Several of the students have taken to wearing our University colors(white and red) with hammers and sickles and starting protests.

    It's ugly.

    -BlkBks
     
  18. ☉rtus ♉

    ☉rtus ♉ Waffle

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    It's pretty hard to lie and say you don't have a facebook account when all they have to do is type your name and they can clearly see that you do....

    I'd just get up and walk out of the interview the second they ask, i wouldn't want to work for such nosy people to begin with... why should my entire life revolve around their business?

    That being said, i don't use facebook anyways... i have an account, haven't used it in ages though and i'm pretty sure i have next to nothing on it. I don't want people knowing what i'm up to every minute of the day, nor do i want random people creeping on my photos... Facebooks fucked to begin with
     
  19. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    O RLY?

    I forgot that when you make a yahoo account they ban you from hotmail or gmail,,, :D
     
  20. deleted

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    orison319@ facebook.. Password., Suckonthesenuts.. Your welcome.
    case sensitive.
     

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