More Atrocities Committed By U.S Troops

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by rangerdanger, Jun 30, 2006.

  1. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Evidence has been uncovered that implicates 5 U.S. soldiers in the rape and mass murder of an Iraqi family in March. They are suspected of breaking into a house, raping a woman and killing everyone inside, including a baby and the woman they just raped, and then burning bodies.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060630/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_soldiers_investigated

    It also reveals that the soldiers were from the same battalion that, weeks later, came under attack by "insurgents" that killed 1 soldier and kidnapped 2 others, who later turned up dead.
    So the latter instance appears to be a case of justifiable revenge.

    If a gang/group raped MY sister, and slaughtered MY family, I sure as FUCK would kill as many of them as possible.

    It also means that, just like in Viet Nam, returning soldiers will be called baby killers and spat upon.

    Of course, the ultimate blame goes to that disgusting pile of shit preident jr.

    C'mon all you bushites, justify the rape and murder of Iraqi citizens.
     
  2. Cryptoman

    Cryptoman Member

    How many infant insurgents are we going to allow to live? If we don't get em before they can pick up a gun, haven't we failed in our mission of protecting the citizenry of the free world. Isn't this supposed to be a pre-emptive war?
     
  3. Cryptoman

    Cryptoman Member

    Oh...Uh...in case you didn't get that...It was sarcasm. I just know someone out there is going to take that last post seriously and well...don't.
     
  4. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    and such stupid soldiers are supposed to be the protectors of freedom and peace. lol



    Those shit soldiers deserve to die. Actually just killing them will be letting them off easy, torture them first.
     
  5. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

    Isn't raping and pillaging a traditional part of a war?
     
  6. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    These things do happen in every war.

    Of course, that doesn't mean it's okay. It just means that the murder of thousands upon thousands of innocent people is "justified" in the minds of sick, murderous fanatic war criminals like George W. Bush and (to a much lesser degree) Osama bin-Laden.
     
  7. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    Civilized, humanized, and democratic modern militaries do not commit such acts.
     
  8. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

    how can the military be civilized, humanized or democratic?
     
  9. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    Nothing more than a lengthy oxymoron, like the simpler "military intelligence".

    The military and all other institutions created to enforce the will of a state over that of its own or other states' citizens (i.e. the local, state and federal policing agencies) are nothing more than collective thugs able to exercise their sociopathic impulses with relative impunity.

    The odd "example" made of the lowly cop or soldier from time to time maintains the illusion of accountability to "we the people". Nothing is further from the truth.
     
  10. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Rallying people to the cause is easy if you've been invaded and the invaders are likking your friends and family. A defensive war.

    But you need a different set of circumstances if YOU are the invaders.
    To overcome the natural revulsion that (most) humans have against killing their fellow man for no good reason, you need to convince the soldiers that the enemy is less than human.
    That makes them easier to slaughter those sub-humans.
    After all, they're not real humans.
    It also helps if you ascribe all sorts of evil to the people your invading.
    Like "they attacked us first" and/or "we have to kill them before they kill us."
    But another facet of this is that if you portray the enemy as less than human, it makes it far easier for the troops to commit the sorts of things we've been seeing in this, and all wars.
    The armed forces tell troops that the enemy is sub-human, arm them to the teeth and drop them off in a war zone. Some soldiers will take their training to heart: it's allright to rape/kill/burn these sub-human savages.

    In WWII the Germans an Italians didn't invade us, but we invaded them.
    In the 50's the Koreans didn't invade us, we invaded them.
    In the 60's the Vietnamese didn't invade us, we invaded them.
    And now Iraq, who didn't invade us.

    In addition to being evil personified, bushco (not jr. himself, who is a moron) is clever.
    Most Americans believe that there was a saddam--9/11 connection, courtesy of bushco.
    And bushco told us that the evil Iraqi's had planes full of poison gas revved up and ready to invade us.
    And bushco went on and on about all those WMD we sold them.
    But now more and more U.S. of Americans are beginning to see the light, see through the veil of lies bushco sold us.

    Don't think we've seen the last of the atrocities either. There will be more and more, as long as we're there.
     
  11. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    According to locals, the girl that was raped and then murdered (along with her mother, father and 5 year old sister) by U.S. soldiers was 14 or 15 years old.

    I wonder how rush and other cons will catagorize this.
    College pranks, like the prisoner abuse?
    Excusable because there is a war going on, like an attorney for one of the soldiers accused of slaughtering 2 dozen civilians said?
    Collateral damage, the excuse tim mcveigh used?
     
  12. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

    I am appalled that you would justify such atrocities by saying "oh gee, well, that's war for you." Your attitude disgusts me.

    Furthermore, we are not at war with the Iraqi people. We are "supposed" to be their "liberators" remember? They were "supposed" to be showering us with rose petals when the Shrub donned his flight suit and arrogantly annonced "Mission Accomplished". This was an innocent family of poor farmers. They had nothing to do with insurgents or WMDs or 911 or Saddam. Just farmers, who had a teenage daughter - a child! - that some American soldiers decided they wanted a piece of.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...6jul06,0,3149499.story?coll=la-home-headlines

    If you dare to justify this atrocity by saying "Big deal, it's a war" than you are in my eyes just as loathesome as the murderers themselves.

    Rape is a crime, in time of war or not. And it is a crime that the guilty should be held accountable for.

    This is not an isolated incident. We have an army of monsters over there.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/world/middleeast/09abuse.html?pagewanted=1


    I am deeply ashamed to be an American at this time.
     
  13. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

    People keep forgetting that we are not at war with the Iraqis. They are not our enemies! I want to know in what way did a 5 year old peasant girl pose a threat to these soldiers? The youngest victim in this atrocity was younger than my son. These are children - the children we are supposed to be "protecting" and "liberating"! Is that a common act of war? To rape and murder the children we are supposed to be fighting to "protect"?

    There is nothing, nothing that can be said to justify this.

    WHY do US soldiers - the invaders! - have immunity in Iraqi courts? Why, when we are supposed to be "liberating" them, do we give our troops an open invitation to rape, torture and kill the people they are "supposed" to be "protecting" without consequences in Iraqi courts? It's their country! They don't want us there! They never have wanted us there! Why is our soldiers are allowed to feel they do not have to act according to the rule of law?

    Oh, I forgot, it's because we enlist the ones with "personality" disorders so they'll make better killers in the first place.
     
  14. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

    (emphasis mine)

    from here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060709/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_rape_investigation_14;_ylt=AtvpHmlon5sCnhxol5PW95ZX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl



    What kind of an agreement is this? Why are our troops unaccountable in Iraqi courts?
     
  15. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    Because we're conquerers not liberators nor followers of the "rule of law", never were, never will be.
     
  16. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    The reason why U.S. troops are exempt from Iraqi laws is because the people in charge over there are U.S. puppets, just like the bogus "elected" gov't in S. VietNam.
    As a senior bushco official recently stated, Prime Minister Maliki "doesn't sneeze without clearing it with us first".
    It's also why Saddam is being tried by the puppet gov't in Iraq rather than an international court, like the Nazi's were (Nuremburg).

    Even if the people that make up the current gov't in Iraq were truely elected (there were a lot of potential candidates that the U.S. did not allow to run for office), most international law experts do not consider it a legitimate gov't, since the polls were surrounded by an occupying army. The stated reason the troops in full battle gear were outside many polling places was to "protect" the voters.
    Maybe.
    But an equally valid reason is because bushco knows that if a soldier is holding a gun to someone's head (or right outside the voting booth), that fact affects the voters choices.

    A civil war raging, rape, torture & slaughter of innocents, billions of $$$'s of OUR money down a rat hole--it's amazing that ANYONE still supports jr's war.

    In ther upcoming weeks supporters of the war--from hillary to the man on the street--will start demading an end to this insane war against humanity the U.S. is waging.

    I would like to see jr. hanging by his balls ala Mussolini, although I'd settle for lethal injection, just like those Texas citizens whose executions were ok'ed by gov. jr when he was boss there.
    Someone should aquaint jr. with the bible the book he claims to follow. Live by the sword die by the sword asshole.
     
  17. It is sad when I read the US articles about the murdering that they keep calling her a woman when in fact she was a GIRL. As if to make it less serious.

    Imagine if someone did that here!!! They killed her entire family, even her little sister! Then they fucking rape her, and then kill her.

    I hope these guys dont get the slip. Grrr.


    WAR IS A MONSTER.
     
  18. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    Which is why unilateral war of aggression (or by its modern PR term "Pre-emptive"/"Preventative" war) was established by the allied powers as a WAR CRIME and applied as such to judge Nazi Germany after its defeat.

    Today, thanks to the complacency and, indeed, collusion of many of those same gutless, unprincipled allied powers, the Bush regime receives neither the indictment nor even so much as censure it deserves for its utter disregard for the Nuremberg Principles. Nevermind that those very principles were ratified by Congress and thus, according to our own Constitution (Article 6), as much a matter of US law as international.

    The entire administration and its every appointee should be dragged to the Hague in chains for their flagrant criminality. Godspeed such a day.
     
  19. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

    Hell yeah!
     
  20. You mean that thing Bush called "a goddamned piece of paper"?
     

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