"IMO" is a great term! sorry about your friend, kilo is just one of the few here i dont think twice about when it comes to self control and safety. sidenote: the benzo+opiate combo is worth near death to me
I gotta disagree that benzos don't make you nod harder. It's a sedative, so of course its gonna make you nod out harder, whenever I throw in 1 or 2 mgs of benzos while I'm on oxy, the opiate effects enhance. But 5 mgs of xanax is very dangerous, but I remember kilo saying he had a huge tolerance for xanax. But still its dangerous especially when mixing two other opiates. Also I don't think tea would block your receptors, whenever I mix opiates it works wonderfully.
kil0, whats up buddy. glad you got yourself some of those delicious 40's. Im surprised to hear you say they are very hard to get by you. I though pk's were all over in Florida. I can generally get oc's anytime I want here up north. i'm not a fan of xanax but i actually took a 1mg last week. my buddy had picked some up and asked if i wanted one. i said sure--rolled a nice blunt--and next thing I knew it was morning. haha. if i were you the only thing i'd mix it with is weed. benzo's mixed with other downers can be real dangerous. as for mixing the 40s with tea or vikes, I'd say no. seems kinda like a waste to me.
Ive been on a methadone program for years.... Every dope fiend at the clinic who wants to get the heroin high takes a xanax or 2. The methadone blocks the effects of heroin ,but its still an opiate so if ya take a stick or 2 with your dose (or double up if you get take home bottles) you will get close to that nod that is so hard to achieve after years of building up a tolerance
You will also get kicked out of the Methadone clinic if you piss dirty for benzos. You won't however, get kicked out for pissing dirty for coke or anything else. It's because Methadone and Benzo's is one of the most, if not the MOST deadliest combo you can take. I still stick by what I said...it doesn't make the opiate "nod" any harder. Just like you said, it's a sedative, so of course it's going to make you a little drowsy, but drowsy, and nodding, are two COMPLETELY different things. There is no proof that benzo's potentiate the opiate high, that I am aware of. Of course you are going to feel more fucked up, you are adding another powerful medication to the already powerful opiate, but I don't believe it makes the opiate high any more pronounced, or harder. This is based of personal experience too, before you say that I have never tried the combo myself. I have tried it with many benzo's.
. At my clinic you wont get kicked off for coke ,as long as opiates keep coming up with it. You can piss dirty for opiates forever ,you just wont get any take home bottles, but they wont kick you off- If you have a script for your benzos you wont get kicked off If you dont- you will > after awhile -
The clinics down here don't even like to take patients on that are currently prescribed benzo's , due to the extreme risk of the combination. If you are caught with benzo's in your system ONE time, you are done...that is how it is in Florida, and New Jersey, as far as I know. You can fail for coke, meth, just about anything, and it takes quite a few fuck-ups before they start doing anything about it. Benzo's are a zero-tolerance policy though.
I am in Jersey- Asbury Park Clinic- your right , w/o a script they will toss ya. However, if you do have a valid script they cant- - they don't like it, but they don't throw ya off
^^^maybe you guys aren't really disagreeing... he only said that adding benzos to an opiate doesn't really have an effect on the opiate high itself. of course you get more fucked up cuz you are adding one drug to another drug, but it doesn't make you "nod harder" (having not done opiates much, i barely know what that means) or increase your opiate high, it gets you high in a different (and dangerous) way. synergy and about the original question, combining different opiates....i don't see why that wouldn't work. i mean i don't think it would block your receptors. to me it seems similar to adding another dose of the same opiate. let's see...you take an OC pill, get high, start to come down (the drug is coming off of your receptors), take another, get high again (more of the drug binds to those receptors). OR, you take twice the OC dose at once, there's more drug to bind more of the receptors...you get highER. i'm sure there is a point that you saturate your receptors, but i dunno if this comes before or after ODing. so it seems to me that combining OC, with hydros, and tea (morphine tea? i'm not sure what you were talking about), you would just have more opiates that bind to opiate receptors and get you more high. it's not like one dose of one of the drugs takes up all the receptors in your brain - if that was the case you'd probably be dead. this is all kinda speculation, although i do have a bachelor's in biochemistry. it's all pretty complicated really. each opiate has a different binding constant for the (different?) opiate receptors, is absorbed differently i would assume... anyways, kinda a long post, hope you guys get something out of it. actually, i just hope you read it and are entertained. don't take what i say to heart, it could all be bullshit. i wouldn't want anyone to hurt themselves, thinking they can combine a bunch of different opiates...blah blah blah i'm no doctor, yet.
ki0 died. from an overdose. he's an idiot. NO LMFAOOO. Thanks you guys for being so concerned, trust me, I know exactly whata fuck Im doing. I got another OC40 for FREE along with 3 7.5mg vikes.
Well today for instance- - I drank my Saturday take home bottle 120mgs (Malincroft cherry type liquid methadone), & I drank my Sunday bottle . Took a 2mg Xanax. Felt nice all day and still do. Went out for breakfast, raked the leaves, went shopping for sneakers. It was not too much at all & tomorrow I wont take anything ,as methadone lasts a long time and there is plenty in my system till Monday. At 58 yrs old , Ive slowed down in the getting high area ,(maybe it don't look that way) so I look forward to Saturdays - - - but-- For the average person who just started a program or never took methadone before - they would ve be dead in about a hour with that combo. Tolerance is a big deal when fuckin with opiates. People must be very cognizant of that- As far as mixing a different kinds of opiate with my dose- - it would be a waste.Ive tried to - but because methadone is so strong and long acting, you need a very powerful breakthrough drug. It just aint worth it at this point. You can feel heroin only if its very strong ,or you do enough of it. Now that gets way too dangerous- - becarefuloutthere, jjack :hat: Oh I just remembered - in NAM we had this stuff called Mekong MindFuck. It was Thai weed dipped in sticky opium & laced with heroin. Man , that made for some really confusing patrols. -
i knew he was fucked, sad about kil0.. lol the conclusion, is, KNOW YOUR TOLERANCE! if u know ur tolerance u wont die lol i mix opiates and benzos all the time, gets me fucked, but i dont puke
sun, i wont die but if I do, you can have my stash; because its practically nothin lol. anyways, im on a roadtrip, so I'll see you niggas sunday night or monday. Positive Energy Always Corrects Errors
haha, got a little worried myself until i saw this page and you're post and then i was like lol. but still man, drugs like these ain't no joke. theres always potential for oding.
its pretty good, but as mephist00 said, you just gotta know your tolerance and what you're doing. That one night, I took a stupidly high amount of xanax, like 5mg, and about snorted about 60mg of oxycodone, and drank some tea. I had a lot of fun, but remember, I didint do all this at once, I spaced it out.
