Misinterpretation?

Simplify. Throwing away possessions and climbing mountains is not the same thing.

 

Then scratch climbing mountains if you're going to be overly literal and one of those composition teachers. Replace with Jumping through your own hoops, Trying to see through your bullshit, Escaping the cycle and thought loops.

However, for example. It may be mentally tough to throw away some possessions while climbing a mountain. But if you just forget about it and leave it there, the climb will be easier. Throwing it away is like trying to destroy it.

I'm trying to say destroying things or waging war against yourself in your mind is just going to make the process longer and more stressful.

 

I'm happy now.

 

Simply, all anxiety is caused by the misapprehension of what is so. You are not anxious because of what you know, but because of what you don't know. If you do not know then it is because your previous learning did not teach it to you. Therefore the appropriate response is to watch, look, and listen. At that point you have no remedy to offer so be still. A mind without anxiety is wholly kind.

 

Now that I agree with totally.
I have to remind myself of that more often than I like.

 

I tend to think doing so is useful in general. You do take some deciphering at times, to figure out what you are actually asking. No offense intended at all. I have my own communication issues, usually involving a very well composed wall of text.

As to your original question I think it as best summed up as fear. And different people respond to fear differently. Some confront it themselves, inside, some turn to others to comfort them. Shared distress is lessened, but it also brings everyone else down. Of course, different people also respond to different -types- of fear, distress and discomfort differently too.

For these sorts, your best options are either compassionate understanding, or some degree of detachment, or a mixture. After all, the fact that they bother you is a symptom of your own discomfort. Learning to deal with the distress of those who don't handle it as well as you is a skill, it takes practice.

 

Actually I have a lot to contribute, as has been demonstrated time and again in this forum, but have chosen not to regarding your questions in this thread for two primary reasons.

First, you seem to only be listening/replying as an adult to those who are mirroring your opinion to one degree or another, so whats the point if you only hear what you have already told yourself is the "truth" of the matter.

Secondly, You have also made it clear that regardless of what I do say in reply, you pre-determined that I have nothing to offer, therefore you have ignored all but my smart-ass responses.
Example:
I said this;

in response to your remark about friends going through periods of peace and periods of anxiety, to paraphrase your words, which response you chose to completely ignore and pass over.
Yet when thedope replied to the same post of yours with this;

which is essentialy the same response I gave, you responded and dialoged with him about it.

So since you already determined I have nothing to offer and have actively ignored my valid, non-smart assed responses, why should I bother with you further?

As far as "one must present their inquiries in proper sentence and thesis compositional structure and with respectful, non comedic words"
goes, it just helps others to understand what the hell your talking about.

 

Plant head, we ALL have problems. Thats basic human nature. The REAL problem arises when you allow your problems to become your focus. Do not hang on to these things, if you want to change, than change, but do not stare into the darkness. You may get lost.

 

I'd give you reputation if I hadn't already. Very valuable response.

 

You are obviously right in your observation. I don't think you need to worry about having something to offer. But yes I did chose to ignore some of your "feedback" because I dislike the way in which you present your thoughts sometimes, and not only in this thread. But certainly your open criticism on my lack of clarity as though I am naive child compared to you made me turn my cheek a bit.

As far as me choosing the answers that you say are the ones I already "agree with." Perhaps to some extent. I'm more noticing some feedback from people that my experiences and feelings can relate to. In the case of this thread I don't really think there was anyone who provided much feedback on the topic that said something disagreeable. You saying I lack clarity in my inquiry is not a real disagreement. It just indicates I was probably stoned, absent minded during my post.

Lets not nit pick anymore, I'm tired, and that was the past.

 

I try not too, and it's been awhile since I've "stared into darkness" too hard and too long. *If you're suggesting that to me.* I try to raise constant questions of thoughts that are discomforting or far too boastful to do any good. I'm still young and have future conflicts and crisis to go through, but I am glad to have mostly over the new decade to not call cycles of thinking real conflicts or crisis to mostly let that type of thinking lose its place in my feeling.

Or something..I'm kinda just rambling again.

But yea you're right. That's what this whole thread was intended to be about.

 

They are just thoughts, and we must consider them, but not get attached to them. I like this discussion, for I went through some shit that really fucked me up. I lost myself in those negative depths, but I have found myself yet again. Do not question these thoughts, for only you will answer back. The blame game is no good.

 

That is one of the important things to learn if you really want to learn about yourself and your relationships from psychedelic use.
You have to be able to adopt the ability to not allow your emotional self get too "involved" with what you encounter during a trip, otherwise it goes from a learning experience to a turmoil of emotional ups and downs that can last long after the drug has worn off.

Remember the only thing you are going to encounter is yourself during a psychedelic experience, and as such if you are not able to face and accept, and even forgive even the darkest parts of yourself, then heaven can quickly turn into hell.

Mushrooms tend to send me close to the emotional edge and are much less "forgiving" than lsd, at least for me they are.
Mescaline has provided the "best" detached observer experience thus far for me.
It's all about relaxing and allowing the show to act out on the stage of your mind without becoming one of the cast members.

 

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I am ever so grateful for this forum. I really love you guys.

 

All I have to say: 2c-e.

Not really a 'fun' experience most times, but for me at least it seems to have all the deep psychedelic journey aspects of lsd with almost none of the emotional amplification. But it does tend for some reason to go to seriously dark places for a lot of people. Not recommended at all for the inexperienced, but for those experienced... Very powerful medicine.

I know, I know, you don't like the RCs. Stick in the mud. Even lsd was new at one point.

 

I think you're missing something. Just because I question too negative or too boastful a thought does not mean I am attached to them. My whole point is questioning getting attached to them. Maybe I'm just still not being clear enough.

 

And the only answer you should get back for the questions is not your own formulation of new words. It's feeling fine, and free in your mind. To openly accept a blank foundation of feeling. That's like saying the answer that is blowing in the wind is just another silly thought of your own. It's nothing.

 

That's some worthwhile contribution PBSmith.

"You have to be able to adopt the ability to not allow your emotional self get too "involved" with what you encounter during a trip, otherwise it goes from a learning experience to a turmoil of emotional ups and downs that can last long after the drug has worn off"

Apparently you understand what I was wondering about now.