Minorities in america are under attack.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by barefooted_in_iowa, Jul 20, 2010.

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  1. lines

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    @barefoot

    I would never try to tell you what to believe. If you are suspiscious of white people than I mean thats your thing. It doesn't worry me if thats the way you feel and think. What worries me is criticism of white people in schools.
     
  2. barefooted_in_iowa

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    you do know that other countries consider americans terrorists for what they are doing? terrorist is a relative term.
     
  3. barefooted_in_iowa

    barefooted_in_iowa Member

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    ... and not the demonization of non anglos everywhere?
     
  4. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Yet the country we're supposedly terrorizing supports us, go figure.



    Also going back to aid, despite the fact China does give developmental aid especially to African countries where it has interests, China is still a net receiver of aid
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_development_assistance

    The BBC also did an article at the end of his term highlighting the fact that despised in his own country, and a lot of Europe and the mid-east, Bush was actually pretty popular in Africa:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7831460.stm
    Guess whitey isn't so bad
     
  5. lines

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    I am worried about the demonization of non-white people too, and i am especially worried about the demonization of arabs. Generally non-white people arent criticized in schools and so their demonizations tends to happen through media and entertainment... and racial demonization is equally as bad where-ever it occurs.
     
  6. barefooted_in_iowa

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    You are good at quoting articles, but you are taking the words of a reporter. A likely anglo reporter. I doubt you have had any relationships of significance with non anglos. and if you have they have been very few. I grew up and have always lived in 90+ percent anglo populated places so I have had this discussion with many anglos and in the past i have had friendships with anglos. you sound identical to them because the only point of view you know is an anglo point of view.
     
  7. Fawkes

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    You are actually talking about me. I am first to declare that I don't like Obama's change, and I hope to God the damage isn't too great. There are a lot of things I don't like about Obama. There were a lot of things I didn't like about Bush, and yes, I wasn't hollerin and screamin then. But there is bad and then there is BAAAAAD.

    *Increased taxes
    *That health care bill
    *Out of control spending
    *Forcing the banks to make bad loans, then blaming them for the mess, then signing a bill that says who can declare bankruptcy.
    *Stimulus, where if you do the math the jobs created will cost like $200,000 each, and most of those jobs are turning out to be useless, government bureaucratic jobs.
    *Bobby Jindal said that Obama told him not to worry about the people who had lost their jobs due to the Oil Spill. Those people could file a claim with BP, or get unemployment checks. THEY DON'T WANT A CHECK, THEY WANT A JOB!!
    *Bailouts, and the takeover of GM and Chrysler. (Yes, Bush started the Bailouts, I didn't like them then. When I heard that Citibank was taking it's Bailout money and buying executive jets, I nearly lost it.)
    *And lots of little things, like the way he said the Cambridge Police acted stupidly, when he didn't have all the facts on the issue. (Plus, did you realize that he had a bunch of unpaid parking tickets from his days at Harvard. He finally paid them when he was in the Illinois Senate, but it took him a while. A little animosity, maybe.)
    *How about the way they try and tell us what to do, fat people should start eating healthy, Michelle said something like dessert isn't a right. Well, yes, true, BUT IT'S NOT THE PRESIDENT'S JOB TO GET INVOLVED IN MY HEALTH. BUTT OUT!!!
    *Telling the graduates at Wesleyan that their individual salvation depends on collective salvation (Sound like a communist, much?)

    He just doesn't seem to understand that in America we are individual people and we don't want the government in our business. We can take care of ourselves, and we don't want his help. He is making it worse.
     
  8. barefooted_in_iowa

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    I think he's just trying to make it fair for everyone.
     
  9. zombiewolf

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    Holy shit you two are perfect for each other! Carry on...:p

    ZW
     
  10. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I'm taking the words of facts from international organizations that are headquarters in other nations. You're blinded by your own paranoia.

    Guess what, I grew up and lived in New Haven which is only 35% white, and less so where I lived.
     
  11. barefooted_in_iowa

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    I'm sure you had plenty of firsthand experience and many non anglo friends too. and they were all singing the praises of the anglo too, right?
     
  12. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Actually yea cause they're over hating each other.
     
  13. zombiewolf

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    I lived in a black household in an all black apt complex for several months in East San Diego.
    My roommate was a black American from Virginia,
    the Apartment above was a steel pan player from Trinidad, and next door was a D.E.A. agent that hailed from Jamaica.( he was cool on weed, believe it or not) They were all friendly towards me from the first meeting and to this day I consider them my friends. I got to hear some of their animosity's towards whites but they were never directed at me or even whites in general, only towards those asshole whites that deserve it.

    Believe it or not there are plenty of people on this earth that don't give a flying fuck about your race. Why? Because all people are potentially groovy on an individual level...its when we get into these stupid group mentality's is when we gets ourselves in trouble, Dig?

    ZW
     
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    If your taxes are going up that means you're making more than $250,000 a year. Please tell my what the hell you have to complain about while the rest of us are loosing our homes and lives. Plus, 47% of Americans paid no taxes last year.


    Easing the suffering of millions of people is such a horrible thing. Do you enjoy watching others suffer for the need of medical care?


    Your Republican buddies are the ones who caused the need to spend now, by letting their CEO friends raid the national treasury and running our economy into a near depression.


    The bankruptcy bill was Republican legislation. Nobody forced the banks to make bad loans. Turn off Fox News and get some accurate information.


    Is this another Fox propaganda tidbit?


    President Obama had nothing to do with this disaster. Seems it was caused by a conservative oil industry that puts dollars before anything else, including the welfare of the planet itself. And, I'm sure the President can see that they don't get those checks, but they don't have to apply for them. I hear interviews every day with people crying about the time it takes to get the BP compensation money. Sounds to me like they really do want those checks. Do you ever watch real news, or just Beck and Limpbaugh.


    Glad to hear you would rather have a full blown depression than spend one dime to prevent it. Don't say that about the loans to the auto makers too loud, the auto workers might stomp you ass; their jobs and the jobs of millions of others were saved buy this loan. The auto industry has paid back most if not all of the money they got and the banks have paid back much of it and will eventually pay it all back.

    Also, the bankers and auto execs are conservative Republicans.


    Obesity is one of the nation's major problems, it is his job to do what he can to solve it.


    So, if the nation fails, you'll be just fine? So why are you complaining about national problems if they don't affect you. If you're not part of the collective called America, you have no complaints.


    So, the President should be saying, "sorry Gulf Coast, you're on our own?" When the next hurricane hits he should not send help, and if we are attacked by another country, he should say "people defend yourselves?" If you ever get stranded on a log in a flood, do you really thing Glenn Beck is going to come to your rescue?

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  15. hotwater

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    For a moment try to put yourself in the place of the Caucasian

    You emerge thousands of years ago from a mountain stronghold deep within the caucuses. You strike out in the world seeking dominion over all mankind only to be met with resistance from every race of people, tribe, and barbarian. You persevere and against all odds you carve out a comfortable niche for yourself.

    Over time your DNA becomes diluted and without the infusion of new blood, your race becomes weak and frail and you become scared of everything and everyone around you.

    You threaten the world with nuclear annihilation but you don’t have the balls to carry through on your threat, so your women step forward to save the race by sleeping with enemy. the white males become impotent but unwilling to go down without a fight they develop viagra :eek:


    Hotwater
     
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    Obviously the difference between us is you believe what Obama tells you, whereas I realize he lies all the time.

    Taxes haven't gone up yet, but they will. Nancy wants to give us the VAT
    http://www.wowowow.com/pov/will-obama-raise-taxes-middle-class-liz-peek-464051

    Obama has to pay for health care somehow and the bill is going to come to all of us. He is going to raise taxes on us, he is going to raise corporate taxes, which means higher prices whenever you go to Best Buy, Kroger Grocery, Chevron or any other store that is part of a corporation.
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb_0609-57.pdf

    The Bush Tax Cuts affected all of us. Scroll down to table 4 in the following link. The other tables are interesting (I didn't know about the huge Kennedy tax cuts) but irrelevant here. Notice that the share of the tax liability for the poor went down, and the share for the rich went up. Yes, the rich got a bigger tax cut, but that's cause they were paying more in the first place. After the Bush tax cuts, they actually paid more as a percentage.
    http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/323.html

    Why would you want to completely rework the whole health care system just because there are 12 million people without health insurance. I am not against health insurance for all Americans, but Obamacare is a bad fix. The Dems always say there are 47 million (or there about) people without health insurance. But here's the thing; many of those people don't count, there are only 12 million that don't have it, want it, need it and should get it. So, give it to them, and leave the rest of us alone.



    Everyone always forgets that the economy was going fine until the Democrats took over congress. Whenever the liberals get a hold of power they fuck everything up. Oh sure, Bush spent a whole hell of a lot of money, and maybe the war wasn't exactly handled correctly, and we invaded Iraq with not real provocation, but we aren't debating that. That is old history. Up until 2006 things were fine in the economy, except for the effects of the 9/11 tragedies.


    I was talking about the CRA, which Carter started in 1977, and was continued under Clinton and the current democrat congress. Then when it goes badly, they blame the banks for doing what they forced the banks to do. Then they force government takeovers, or tell companies that they aren't allowed to declare bankruptcy.


    No, it's Math. Remember 8th grade math?
    We've spent 1,000,000,000,000 on the stimulus. Actually it wasn't quite that much, but when you figure in interest, it's going to be way more.
    Obama always talks about the stimulus creating or saving 3,000,000 jobs. But let's say it works REALLY well, and the stimulus creates even more jobs, say 5,000,000 jobs. Plus that makes the math easy.

    $1,000,000,000,000 = $200,000
    5,000,000 jobs job

    This is facts, man. And I even played the numbers in Obama's favor, and it's still $200K per job. That is TERRIBLE!!!



    No, Obama didn't cause the BP spill, I didn't say he did. I just said that it's a bit insulting to be told "Don't worry, you'll get an unemployment check, or a settlement check from BP. Don't worry, we'll take care of you." when what you want is a job. Yes, an unemployment check pays the rent (maybe) and puts food on the table, but Obama handled this improperly.

    In fact, you could say that Obama made things worse when BP was trying to fix the leak, the government wanted to do more analysis. Also, I've heard it said that the environmentalists might have been partly to blame for this mess, because they forced the drills out into deep water, where it's harder to drill. Shallow water drills are obviously easier to maintain. Just an argument I've heard somewhere, and it goes to show that lots of people are to blame, not just BP.

    Ohh, right like Obama's spending is going to prevent us from going into a full blown depression. That's funny as shit. If we manage to escape going into a depression, and turn this economy around it will be in spite of Obama's spending, not because of his spending. Just like with the Great Depression, FDR didn't get America out of the depression, his spending prolonged the depression.


    WHAT?!?! This is where we have a major difference in policy opinion. It is NOT his job to get involved in what we eat. If the FDA or the American Heart Institute said something that's fine. But I don't need this man or his wife lecturing me


    America is not a collective. We are all individual people. My salvation, my success is largely independent to from yours. In a capitalist economy if you are doing well, then you are more likely to spend money at my store, and vice versa, but if I am innovative and have a product that people need, my store I can make money even in a messed up economy like this. No, I am not part of a collective, I am an American, and I am an individual.


    OK, both of us are taking things to extremes in this argument. I never meant to imply that the government shouldn't help the gulf coast oil spill victims, natural disaster victims or protect us in times of war. I know I said I want the government out of my business, and I did speak too harshly, because obviously I like having a road in front of my house. Of course there are things that we rely on the government for, and I took it for granted that this was understood. I was just watching a program on TV called the crumbling of America, and it was focused on the water pipes and how that infrastructure is falling apart. There was a huge pipe burst in Montgomery County, MD that caused huge torrent of water to sweep cars away. Wawarsaw, NY is right above a leak in the Delaware aqueduct and the leaking water comes right up into peoples' homes. This is obviously something that the government is supposed to take care of. Along with the roads, schools, public hospitals, sewer system, public parks, police and fire department. If you wanted to raise taxes to pay for infrastructure improvements, fine.

    The problem is that the government is so wasteful, they can't really do anything right. So, I don't want them to take care of anything that can be better handled elsewhere. And Obama is trying to take power with the health care bill, messing up the economy so people have to rely on wealthfare and unemployment checks, redistributing wealth, cap and trade even cash for clunkers which was a fiasco is their attempt to control what we drive.
     
  18. Duck

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    You have to be a troll.

    Otherwise, that the irony of your words is lost on you - is just sad.
     
  19. zombiewolf

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    Nope...they want sex, drugs, and Rock n' Roll! :cool:
     
  20. barefooted_in_iowa

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    And I am glad that they are 92% Han Chinese, and I hope it stays that way. They are a proud people with a great culture, and they stick together. The anglo will have a much more difficult time dividing and conquering the Chinese if it stays this way, and western ways are shunned. America is much more susceptible to a divide and conquer operation and mainly because of the anglo. He stirs up seeds of hatred and suspicion. This works in China's favor. A divided nation can not stand. I am not one for forcing people to see my point of view, and as We become the majority, I hope that the applicable anglos move to their small all anglo towns and separate themselves from Us. That way they can be happy, and so can We. :)
     
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