Minneapolis Police Choke Handcuffed Man to Death

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  1. Joshua Van

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    no death sentence for cop they get off to easy that way. locked up with Bubba is better
     
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  2. TheGreatShoeScam

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    "Peace Officers" vs. "Law Enforcement Officers"

    Written by: Greg Ellifritz

    "Last week, I became involved in a discussion about the term “law enforcement officer.” That’s what many cops are calling themselves these days. The words sound almost professional. The problem isn’t really with the term itself; it’s when officers embrace the idea that their sole occupational mission is to find and arrest as many law breakers as they can. If only things were that simple. Our true mission is one that is exponentially more complex than that.

    My hard charging cop readers (and their supervisors) will likely hate what I have to say. That’s OK. Read the article anyway. Think about the ideas I discuss. My guess is that after 20+ years policing your community, you’ll eventually come to similar conclusions. It’s an issue of perspective; and I guarantee your perspective will change after a couple more decades in the game. If you read and embrace the ideals of this article, you’ll be far ahead of the curve and you will lead a much happier and more productive life.

    The best police officers in this country don’t act like mindless automatons. Cops who robotically enforce every law on the books seldom accomplish anything useful besides generating measurable statistics to please a supervisor. “Law Enforcement” shouldn’t be the goal of a good police officer. In fact most officers would be far better off if “enforcing the law” became a much lower priority in their day-to-day patrol activities. What? Read on. I will try to explain what I have learned from some of the best officers on the planet and in my own experience being a cop for 23 years.

    In many states, cops aren’t statutorily designated as “law enforcement officers.” They are more properly classified as “Peace Officers.” We are charged with keeping the peace in the community and protecting our residents from both hazards and criminals. We use the law as a tool to help us accomplish the goal of keeping the peace. Cops who mindlessly “enforce the law” may or may not accomplish the goal of “keeping the peace.” It’s a crap shoot.

    If a community has an issue with armed robberies, cops writing lots of speeding tickets aren’t likely solving the problem. Sure, occasionally these cops will pull over and arrest an armed robber for a traffic violation, but it is a hit or miss opportunity. In most cases, trying to enforce all the laws on the books causes an officer to waste his time targeting people who aren’t really causing true problems in the community. It keeps him from doing the meaningful work of keeping his jurisdiction a peaceful place.

    Keeping the peace involves regularly ignoring minor scofflaws who aren’t really presenting a danger to their communities in order to remain free to respond to calls for service about more serious matters. Peace officers balance the needs of the community with the severity of the crime involved. It might be a wise choice to avoid arresting a guy for smoking a joint on the street corner if that same man can give you information to solve a homicide. “Keeping the peace” may mean ignoring the dude driving on a suspended license because you know he’s going to work to try to earn money to feed his family. A good officer focuses his efforts on solving the problems in his community rather than just randomly citing or arresting every “law breaker” he sees.

    The best officers use the law like a scalpel rather than a bludgeon.

    Unfortunately, a lot of police administrators don’t want to deal with “peace officers.” Solving real problems involves a lot of work and effort. Many bosses don’t want to do that. They actively discourage officers from doing good work out of sheer laziness or fear that they will inadvertently allow an action that will later be criticized by the boss’ superiors or political controllers.

    When police bosses put the goals of bureaucratic convenience and political gamesmanship ahead of protecting the community, they create a culture of “don’t make waves” cops. Unfortunately, most significant problems in a community don’t get solved without a few “waves.” Cops doing their best to solve problems often create extra work for their bosses. The bosses don’t like that. They retaliate by ignoring the officers’ proposals, actively subverting the officers’ efforts, and by looking to discipline the hard working officer for any minor policy violation they can find.

    Cops quickly learn that they shouldn’t attempt to do anything significant at work. It’s easier to write a few tickets and keep the bosses happy than it is to make political waves and get beaten down for genuinely trying to solve major community problems.

    When the officers’ ideas about “keeping the peace” involve solving community problems and keeping people safe, while the administrative staff thinks “keeping the peace” means avoiding work, kowtowing to politicians, and eliminating negative publicity, the community suffers. Officers adapt by not trying to solve problems and start mindlessly enforcing inconsequential laws to generate the ticket or arrest numbers that make the bosses happy.

    That’s why you find so many “law enforcement officers.” Those are the folks who get rewarded in the department. They get promoted. Their behavior becomes encouraged throughout an organization. It’s almost as if an entire police department becomes lobotomized in the quest to create measurable outcomes (like tickets and arrest numbers) that only tangentially solve the community’s problems. I’ve seen it in hundreds of agencies during the course of my career.

    A former sergeant once called me into his office to order me to write more traffic tickets. While he was telling me about my numeric deficiencies, he made this statement:

    “I need you to write more tickets. It will make both of us look better. Besides that, it gives you the chance to fuck with people. All cops like to fuck with people.”

    The sergeant certainly liked to fuck with people, but I don’t. I have better things to do. Thinking back on that moment caused me to realize that I might have found the ultimate litmus test between “peace officer” and “law enforcement officer.”

    Is the majority of your day spent fucking with people and generating inconsequential “stats?” If so, you aren’t a peace officer. You are a revenue generating cog in a political machine. Your conduct will further undermine the public trust in our profession. Stop it.

    Don’t fuck with people, even if you think those people are “shitbags,” “dope heads,” or “gang bangers.” If you are fucking with people, no matter how much you think those people deserve it, you are ultimately causing more problems than you are fixing.

    Instead, work to solve real problems. Think about what it means to be a “peace officer.” Your bosses may grow to hate you, but embracing the idea of the “peace officer” is the only way we will be able to positively alter our profession’s universally tarnished reputation. During every future interaction in your police career, you should be asking yourself: “Am I really keeping the peace or am I merely enforcing a law.” There is a huge difference. Strive always to keep the peace."
     
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  3. TheGreatShoeScam

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    The latest Atlanta one did not need to happen.

    Oh well stuff like I posted above will not likely ever be talked about in the news but IMO is the solution to most of this.
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

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    So you’re saying George Floyd tried to attack and potentially kill those cops? That’s what would make this a direct parallel
    You know damn well that’s not what happened. And making his a direct comparison would make George Floyd look worse
     
  5. 6-eyed shaman

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    Yeah I’m sure if you were in the cop’s shoes, you’d have just let the guy taser you. In a critical situation during an adrenaline rush. Because it’s a “non lethal” weapon after all. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Joshua Van

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    yes i would have thats why cops have partners witch also meant they had a second taser to use instead of a gun
     
  7. Vladimir Illich

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    Are you going to be an idjit all your life ???
     
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  8. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    no there is no parallel, lets compare

    4 cops, not all white
    Guys blood supply was cut off and chocked, dead

    vs

    2 cops
    1drunk guy
    Resisting arrest
    Steals taser From cop
    Tasers can kill by the way.
    Hear taseR going off As he shoots at cops
    Vests are not shock resistant, neither are the6 knife proof
    Cop shoots back
    Drunk drivers kill more people than cops do. Each year.

    roughtly 510 people shot by cops each year. Vs over 10 000 people killed in the USA per year by drunk drivers.

    30 people killed by drunk driver per day

    I think there needs to a riot against drunk drivers and their homes and businesses need to burned Down...
     
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  9. Joshua Van

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    except by the time the cops showed up he was not drunk driving he was drunk sleeping.
     
  10. Vladimir Illich

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    Do that and you'll lose most of the politicians, judges, police, senior local government officers etc, etc, etc.
     
  11. 6-eyed shaman

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    Black lives are ended by drunk drivers.

    But none of this matters to you guys apparently
     
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  12. Vladimir Illich

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    Yes there are, but probably not as many as those murdered by 'racist' police and other right wing nuts !!!
     
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    Well that is just ridiculous,
    Joe Biden said he doesn’t considered drunk driving a felony! I wonder why he is eager to Make this statement and push this scenario. Is he perhaps a drunk driver himself? He Might want to speak with MADD - mothers against drunk drivers on that account who have lost loved one because of people driving drunk. MADD is inclusive by the way.

    but I am sure Some Groups would like to turn this into a racial issue and find a way to say, Blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately represented in drinking and driving arrests. Don’t care about the over 10 000 plus people killed Per year in the USA alone, those 30 people per day. The poor guy Or girl who killed people, maimed people is going to jail.
     
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    Give him a break at 10 years old I'm sure he still struggles every morning (to the sad dismay of his mother).to the embarrassment of the bed-wetting alarm going off
     
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    You said bed wetting alarm, I thought of Joe Biden at 77 ;)
     
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    questions for you Vlad.

    why do you call people comrades?

    do you believe in a one world and one government?

    what are your views on the UN?

    what are your views on immigration?

    do you believe that the far left should control governments in countries?

    are you a communist?

    everyone knows you are a fan of Lenin, after all you are named after him on here...

    do you love Russia?

    what do you think of Putin?

    what do you think of Castro?

    How did you like the red army terror? How many were executed a day? How many were starved to death, because they were peasants and didn’t matter??
     
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  19. TheGreatShoeScam

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    MADD Neo-Prohibitionism and Neo-Prohibitionists

    Neo prohibitionist pain in the asses.
     
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    They are mothers who lost their children to drunk drivers.
    They are left wing.
    Some might like to see drinking abolished, because of grief and anger that this caused to the individual. Drinking responsibly isn’t a bad thing. Drunk isn’t an excuse for what happened either while intoxicated. it is a choice one makes. you drive to a bar, drink, get in your car and drive. Who are you going to blame if something bad happens? Try taking a cab. MADD members I have met never wanted it abolished, just wanted peoples decisions and for those that do to be accountable, If it was abolished here, people would simply make their own like my grandmother did. She was in an isolated area and access to store bought booze didn’t happen. The rcmp would get their booze from her as did many others,

    MADDS mission is to stop impaired driving and to support victims of this crime, it isn’t to abolish drinking, Did you get that from wiki? You are assuming a lot wit( that link. They are not anti drinking,
     
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