Milosevic.

Discussion in 'Europe' started by wolf_at_door, Mar 19, 2006.

  1. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    You don't know how glad I am to hear those lines...
     
  2. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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  3. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    You don't know how glad I am to finaly be able to say it!...

    I'm curious, how do you European people see Serbia these days?..What do you think of us?..(sorry, but right now I'm too lazy to start a new thread with this topic :) )
     
  4. Matija

    Matija Member

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    Serbs are crazy. They have proven it in the last 20 years.
     
  5. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    The story about the tragedical civil war the medias are telling, are unfortunately quite one-tracked. Only the Serbian government are pointed out as the über-crooks, despite militias in Croatia and in Bosnia has made just as many war criminal acts.

    I only sympathize with those who struggle for peace, in the mid of this insanity. And I don't give a fuck about which nationality, in that respect...
     
  6. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Ok, you would have to explain that, why do you think we're crazy?
    Or maybe we are...I guess we're proving that through our entire history....
    You are the smart ones, you still go to our colleges and not paying like regular Serbian citizens and we get ripped off on your seaside :)
    Wolf, I absolutely agree with you
     
  7. Matija

    Matija Member

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    Zašto?


    Where should i begin? Maybe with the war you started, destroying Yugoslavia to create Great Serbia from it's riuns. You have ruined millions of lives, killed so many people with absolutely no reason. Just because they weren't Serbs.
    But I guess that's normal... If you're a Serb.

    A tek vaši slogani-

    Srbija do Tokija, Srbi nebeski narod, Bog èuva Srbe-hvala bogu što sam Srbin

    Sigurno ti smetaju kritike iz ,,južne srpske pokrajine'', ali tako ti je to.
    Ili možda lažem?
     
  8. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Did Sanja Serbia start the war? Did Sanja Serbia destroy Yugoslavia? Did Sanja Serbia kill & ruin these millions of lives?

    I think it's time to distinguish between destruction caused by political systems, and the needs of the people, who live under that system... I think it's time to reflect on who's actually responsible for all this hatred, and to back up those who reach a hand to make an end on it.

    love and understanding,
    wolf.
     
  9. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Dragi Matija, pre svega, u svojim argumentima nikad nemoj da generalizujes stvari i da koristis "opste poznate cinjenice" jer nismo svi isti i ne mislimo svi isto, a ja (niti bilo ko drugi uostalom) ni po cemu nisam tipican predstavnik svog naroda i, ako je neko radio nesto u ime Srba, ne znaci da svi Srbi opravdavaju taj cin. Krivi su pojedinci, a ne ceo narod. S ovim u vezi procitaj neke moje ranije postove na ovu temu jer necu da trpim da bilo ko na moju savest stavlja ratne zlocine koji su izvrseni dok sam bila beba!...Srbi su iz celog tog balkanskog sranja izvukli najdeblji kraj jer su na svakih nekoliko godina morali da udomljavaju "izbeglice", "raseljena" ili "prognana lica" (te tri kategorije nisu sinonimi)...Slogane su smislili Milosevic&co. (uz ono neizbezno "Niko ne sme da vas bije") a jadan narod ih je prihvatio zbog osecanja potpunog ocaja u kom se nalazio tih godina...Dakle, racionalizuj malo stavove i ne veruj svemu sto su te naucili...
    Na kakve kritike mislis?
     
  10. Matija

    Matija Member

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    No, it wasn't Sanja, but it WAS Serbia. And If you think that the 90's regim didn't have people's support, you are very mistaken.


    And believe me, it was long after the war and the UN sanctions when Miloševiæ lost people's support, and only because he lost the war.
    If he had won, he would be a hero.
    And my country would now probably be a region in Serbia.
     
  11. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    I'm a part of Serbia, so as my family and many more who didn't want that war...So, it's like you're telling me that we're ALL guilty...And, how would you know it?..You were just a baby then and you know only things you've been told by others...Ant yet you seem so self-confident about that...
     
  12. frkadela

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    Milosevic was pure evil...
    Communist...
    There is a lot of people like him, that's true...
    Milosevic started the war, not Serbs...

    I'm from Montenegro...
    I'm very glad about separation... We are, finally, free...
    But I don't hate Serbs...
    We are similar nations...
     
  13. Matija

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  14. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    First of all, let me tell you something about psychology of mass : desperate people will follow anyone who can promise better life and solution how to get out from the mess they’re in…Hitler showed up after great economic crisis and inflation in 1920s (heard of it?) and Milosevic made people think that he could provide strong leadership which Serbia needed after Tito…So, yes, I blame Hitler and Milosevic and not Germans or Serbs (I can’t believe I’m actually comparing these two cases!)…

    You should talk with frkadela for a bit, he’s the person with rational attitude J

    And “AT LEAST a million blood-thirsty people in Great Serbia”?….You know that because….?….

    Peace out
     
  15. Matija

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    Dobro Sanja, kako ti kažeš.
    Pretpostavljam i da su Vukovar i Srebrenica samo obièna propaganda.
     
  16. frkadela

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    Vrijedi pomenuti da je prije osam godina Amerika bombardovala zgradu RTS-a i tada je poginulo 16 osoba...

    Nema mnogo veze sa temom, osim sto je Milosevic bio na vlasti...

    Nego, eto...
    In memoriam...
     
  17. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Ja ne kazem da srpska vojska i razne njene ispostave, ako znas na sta mislim, (ali, NE ceo srpski narod) nisu cinile zlocine, ali to je samo deo celokupnog bratoubilackog haosa koji se odigravao tamo, mislis da ostali narodi nisu doprineli tome?...I, da, Milosevic nije bio "pure evil", nego samo jedan mentalno poremecen covek (imao je geneticku predispoziciju za to) koji je bio opijen moci i skroz nezrela licnost koja ne moze da poveze uzrok sa posledicom i lako biva izmanipulisan (zapravo imam jednog profesora koji se uklapa u njegov profil, ali to je sada skroz druga tema:) )....
     
  18. frkadela

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    Vojska je to radila jer je morala... Dobro, mogla je odmah da izvrsi drzavni udar, ali to sad nije bitno...
    Poenta je da ne mozemo da krivimo vojsku, nego vodje...
    Arkana, Legiju, Milosevica...

    Nikad necu prezaliti Djindjica... :mad:
    Bio je doktor filosofije i jedini demokrata u to vrijeme...

    A Milosevic je imao i zvijezde iza sebe... Natalna karta mu je haos... Da nije imao vlast, postao bi masovni ubica... (Kao C. Menson, koji je inace bivsi hipik :))

    Sta radi taj profesor? Zavadja vas? ;)
     
  19. Matija

    Matija Member

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    Vidi Sanja, sve stvari mogu se posmatrati iz najmanje 2 ugla i meni je sasvim jasno da ti želiš da opravdaš svoje sunarodnike, ali ja to gledam iz drugaèijeg ugla, da ne kažem manje pristrasnom, jer meni ta tema u životu ne znaèi ništa.

    Uglavnom, znaš šta mislim, nemam više volje da se raspravljam, a i ne vidim svrhu tome. Imam pametnijih stvari da o njima razmišljam.
     
  20. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    E, da znas da se i meni vise ovo smucilo....Kazem ti, nikada nece biti potpuno jasno sta se tamo desavalo i zato je iluzorno da nas dvoje (koji by the way jedva da smo znali da hodamo tada) raspravljamo i "otkrivamo toplu vodu"....
    Hajde, ovo je hipi forum, gde su tolerancija, mir, ljubav?...:)
    P.S. Taj profesor mi vise ne predaje tako da sam nezavisna od njegovog uticaja :)
    P.P.S. I meni nedostaje Djindjic.....
     

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