Michael Moore's Protest to CNN

Can we stay on topic? Which is MICHAEL MOORE'S Movie, not HIM.

I'm not going to say it again...

People who DISTRACT, BLUR, etc. get banned...

WTF HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?

Last warning to you.

I won't stand for having any threads, esp. MINE, derailed.

 

Yes, Michael Moore's films and techniques have been dissected to death. By people who would rather NOT discuss the issues they bring up.

It's getting to the point where so many ppl are repeating EXACTLY the same talking points about Moore and his films that they are LOSING all credibility, while Moore's just keeps on rising.

Of course making a movie requires some dramatic LICENSE to be taken, otherwise it wouldn't have much impact, and would be far more BORING. Just think of how BORING his subjects are to most Americans. Politics and Medicine are hardly entertaining enough to carry most Americans through a two hour movie.

So Moore has to take DRAMATIC steps like his trip to Cuba to highlight the differences between the systems and to make a HUGE point. That event would not have occured if he hadn't decided and planned it out.

It wasn't a straight documentary, cause that kind of production would aim to NOT manipulate events for the camera. Yet most documentaries do this anyway - think of all that animal footage carefully setup then re-edited to make a story on lions for instance.

You HAVE to do certain things for the sake of the story.

And in this case the story is SO IMPORTANT because it affects every American.

Of all those who've come into this thread to criticize Moore, how many of you have actually seen the movie "Sicko?"

 

Got news for ya Dirk, WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FAR MORE FOR HEALTHCARE than we would under a Nationalized system. The proof is in the numbers Moore offered. Yes, other countries may pay more in taxes that cover health benefits, but the cost of implementing those benefits is far less. Medicare only cost 1% to deliver all that health care to America's seniors. We could just extend that system to cover everyone, and that would save probably 49% that the insurance companies eat up.

In fact medicare will cost LESS than 1% because when everyone's covered and there are no co-pays, no other insurance companies, no deductibles, etc. there will be far fewer employees needed to process all that unnecessary paper work.

I'd say something like 20% of medical costs go into all the billing, insurance and recordkeeping personnel needed to keep the insurance system going. Add to that the 30% gross profit that insurance companies and pre-paid services make and you save 50%.

And don't forget under a National system, NOBODY gets refused treatment! That ALONE makes this system ESSENTIAL to the HEALTH and SECURITY of our nation.

 

Actually as I was writing that I realized Medicare would become obsolete too with universal coverage, so we'd save that 1% as well!

But that is an example right here in the USA, of what it costs to administer a gov't run health system.

 

I'm not sure if the 1% is in the film or not, but Michael Moore used that stat when discussing health care on CNN. I'm sure it's easily verified, and CNN would've taken issue if it wasn't.

So what EXACTLY DID MOORE get wrong in Sicko?

Despite the CNN erroneous "fact check" a lot of ppl seem to think he is wrong, so I'd like to know just which facts ARE WRONG in "Sicko".

Put up or shut up. Please include the ACTUAL true facts so we can see exactly how far he is off. You can't bash someone without GOOD reason.

CNN didn't have a good reason, and apparently neither do most of you.

 

The cost of administering the medicare program is 1% of its total payouts.

Why are you trying to MUDDY this FACT with irrelevant stats?

 

This is YOUR Supposed UNBIASED SOURCE,

Which in short means they're PAID BY THE INDUSTRY TO advocate MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO in supposedly unbiased reports (they say how "respected" they are" - no doubt by their clients).

Which is exactly what YOU YOURSELF are doing here.

You are just an Industry shill way down the food chain.

And you're probably completely unconconsious of it.

Time to wake your ass up!

 

Yes, Michael Moore's #1 source is the AMERICAN CITIZEN.

That's in a whole 'nother LEAGUE to the Industry TRIPE you're spewing here.

Moore uses actual STORIES from Americans to power his documentaries.

I guess American Citizens are just another "special interest" group to YOU AND YOUR KIND...

Get fucking real and start OPENING YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH.