Miami Building Collapse, my idea for faster rescues

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  1. TheGreatShoeScam

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    I am just watching the news that horrible building collapse and saw people carrying away 5 gallon buckets of debris and remember these youtube videos DIY belt systems people were building to move stuff around.

    I am sure some good engineers could quickly design and weld something together to carry the rubble off site.

    Quickly repurpose some mining or farming equipment .

    Maybe suspend the conveyer machine over the debris pile with those big construction cranes and everyone just start loading stuff on and it gets carried away.



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    If you think its good idea get it to the right people.

    I have no idea how to even begin doing so.
     
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    I guess its easy for me to sit in front this PC and be critical but what the heck start picking stuff up and get it out of there.

    Quit tripping over and stumbling around those cement blocks and other human liftable size objects and get them out of there.

    This is horrible watching this on CNN getting irritated.

    Even a zip line sort of system just start moving stuff off the pile already.
     
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    When there is a possibility of rescue removal happens very slowly and methodically. Once the debris gets to those 5 gallon buckets it has to be searched again on site for remains and personal artifacts.

    After all that it gets hauled off site.
     
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    When I saw the condo my first thought was the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City back in 1995.

    Thankfully in this case it's either a catastrophic structural failure or a sinkhole.
     
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    They have said it's "been sinking since the 90's" but I'm thinking new or accelerating sinkhole.

    Did you notice how much water was in the parking garage/basement? That's not from "busted pipes"
     
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    If the building has been gradually subsiding over a number of years, leading to it's eventual collapse,
    how did the city inspectors miss that?
     
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    Am am sure the engineers at NASA could think up and build a machine so quickly that could start from top and convey all the material off that pile.

    Design software CNC machines. Goes from idea to built in hours.

    This is not the World Trade center its a small building, maybe one millionth the size.

    IMO is case of "but that's the way we always done it" well this way sucks.

    People milling around. I cant watch this anymore.
     
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    Ya we can fly helicopters on mars but we cant move the rubble from the collapse of a condo building.
     
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    What they are saying now is that it wasn't enough movement to cause concern...

    I guess a lot of the multi story buildings in Florida are doing the same thing.
     
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    I find it ironic that The Miami-Dade County building code requires multifamily buildings undergo a 40-year recertification process,
    to certify "each building is structurally and electrically safe for the specified use for continued occupancy"

    They were preparing to be recertified
     
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    I worked in some demolition way back when I was young and stupid. That is not easy shit to clear up, AT ALL. All those broken concrete slabs are tangled with rebar, contaminated with every kind of hazardous debris... It needs to be chopped up with heavy machinery; excavators with hydraulic jack hammers, shears and cutters... Doing some of the work with pneumatic hand tools is one of the most agonizingly miserable slow exhausting filthy jobs on the planet. To do all that with the clock ticking to find bodies... OMG, I could have a coronary just thinking about it!

    I was looking at the place on google earth, there's a God Damned identical condo building up the street from it. There's actually 3 or 4 but one has a roof that looks just as dirty and worn. I'd be getting the hell out of those buildings immediately. Can you imagine, working your whole life to save up and drop 700K on a beach side condo, just to get crushed in your sleep in 2 seconds flat!?
     
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    Nothing I like better than reading helpful and imaginative comments by armchair Confined Space/Heavy Rescue experts as they critique people who actually do know what the fuck they're doing.
     
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    Also said it was in a reclaimed wetland. That doesn’t sound stable
     
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    Always carry hot dogs in your pockets so the SAR dogs find you first.
     
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    I dont see any reason the searchers have to constantly step over and duck under all that rebar sticking up. Get it out of the way.

    Its not that difficult.


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    The DCC-1618HL cordless rebar cutter will safely and cleanly cut rebar up to 5/8” diameter grade 60
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    6 strong men set up a tent so they can mill around in the shade.

    Maybe just maybe you could go carry away some of the cement blocks instead ?

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