valendian has a complete right to his opinion thinking mxe is pretty poor. all the guys in the psy bump thread love 2C's yet i think they are nasty. not saying i haven't had good times on 2C's but i still think they're nasty and have no desire to really do em. i tried mxe and it didn't really do anything, want to try it again at much higher doses 150-250mg. though calling up my friend and them dropping me 6g of pure amazing k for 70 pounds sounds much easier to be honest.
lol, write to: http://www.insults.net and let them know they aren't presenting accurate translations. By any chance would you translate each one? hahaha! That's what I get for sleeping and cheating my way through two years of college level Francais.
Maybe they'll pay me to get their shit in order. haha Sure why not I can translate em': Suce ma bite = Suck my dick va bouffer ta merde = Go eat your shit retourne enculer les mouches = go back to fucking flies in the ass mes couilles sur ton nez = my balls on your nose le con = you **** (roughly) Tabernac! = Tabernacle (this is a quebec thing, we yell random bible/christian words when we are pissed off) choleque de merde! = I have no idea what choleque means. I even googled it and the only time it comes up is when english people are trying to insult french people lol. nique ta mère = fuck your mother.
Mxe and Ketamine are kind of easy outs, I try to disassociate (har dee har) them from other psychedelics. I've heard the analogy of psychedelics being like swimming, like low doses are the shallow end of the pool and then heavy doses/different environments are like the deeper end of the pool. To run with that analogy dissociatives are like swimming with floaties on. I feel they are like pseudo psychedelics, they don't really require much work and rarely produce lasting beneficial effects. With that said my first K hole was a pretty powerful experience and I found appeal in the darker edge that ketamine has compared to the sertoninergic hallucinogens. In fact Ketamine had such an effect on me, I pretty much gave up all psychedelics besides Ecstasy and Ketamine for over a year. I sort of felt like ketamine cut out some of the bs from psychedelics, But one night after some Ecstasy I smoked some Salvia and that completely changed my perspective on ketamine and which drugs are actually bs. I found my reunion with salvia much much darker than what ketamine was providing and more real and true to the psychedelic experience. I have recently used mxe, and would not turn down ketamine if offered but I think I have a different perspective about it now than I did initially did when I tried Ketamine. It's simple fun, a way to check out but I don't think they compare to the real psychedelics. (which includes cannabis and salvia for me)
I've never had any sort of life altering revelation on mxe or anything remotely close. Its just a bunch of nothing. The huge dose I took that resulted in an awesome m-hole I was pretty sure I was going to die then I did 'die' and whole time I couldn't have cared less. It was beautiful nothing. But nowhere near a psychedelic experience. It's as novel as nodding out on Opana. Fun none the less.
I agree, I maybe took it too far but wasn't trying to say he couldn't have an opinion nor that he wasn't welcome nor that his opinion wasn't valid; all I was doing was showing that a simple "I hate the stuff!" doesn't constitute much in the way of feedback. Maybe I was a bit of an asshole, and if so, sorry valendian, but why do you find it disgusting? What makes it not agree with you (in detail)? I should've just asked that rather than posting an arrogant bolded, capped 'set of HF'ers guidelines' (though those really are the manner by which most folks here prefer to have answers answered, jus' sayin' boo). See, now your answer p0ly gives a more detailed, but still vague, description of what is and is not what LL wants. The OP seems to want detailed descriptions of experiences, which I gave...though you did too, it didn't work for you, and fire ket does, so I suppose you followed those silly guidelines I gave valendian. But yeah, I could've handled it differently, and I (like Shivaya and GM) could've left out the thread hijacking and hijinx and not been so hypocritical. I think what we did was worse, if we wanna be technical, than what valendian wrote. So I apologize to all who felt offended, especially to valendian :2thumbsup:
i guess he just thinks k is much better and mxe made him really ill from not much use yet k hasn't so he's pretty much saying stick to k as it's better and cheaper. i would wish to try mxe again if it wasn't so expensive (IMO due to dissociative tolerance) the only reason i did it was because my friend gave me 500mg for free to hear my opinion, it arrived on my birthday
@p0ly: Didn't you just have your birthday? Anyway, go easy on the MXE, I would bet you two pence that 200mg will get you really fuckin' high, just don't expect it to be a thing like k. It's got its own flavor, its own character, and it lasts much longer. Interestingly enough, the guy who invented it was a clandestine scientist who made it expressly for gettiing high on, and as such, made sure that cystitis is almost a non-issue with it. Cool eh?