Metallica, Slayer, Pantera or Megadeth?

Lars' drumming isn't the best in the world but his style is alright (off-beat).

 

it worked out great for both bands.

I agree, lars isn't the best drummer, but his style is good.

 

Where is Maiden???

As for all these bands I bieleve Pantera did it the best, they kept thier sound and style and anybody liked it, into heavy metal or not. They gave heavy metal fans hope for metal even when grunge music was slowly taking out metal music. As for talent you can't tell me Dimebag wasn't a creative genius on guitar, Mustaine, Hammet, and King may all be faster but more creative? I don't think so. Besides that Phill had the most creative voice among all of these bands.

As for Metallica, if it wasn't for them not as many kids would of wanted to listen to heavy metal, thier music still riegns from 10-50 year old people, they truly made metal good for anybody, but I just don't think they had an impact on kids in the 80's like Pantera did in the 90's. But, Pantera really pushed for more of a intimate session with thier kids at concert

As for Slayer, they are OVER RATED! They have blew up rescently because radio, festivals, and other bands talked them up, so somehow it made people think the only way to be a metal head is to listen to them. The only thing they did was cause shock so they could cash in on it. Besides ask them to play a chord and they might look at you in confusion, and both of Slayers drummers can't compare to Vinnie or Lars, have you really listened to Slayers drums? He plays fast, but he never once has the complexity to a drum beat as Vinnie or Lars. You know it is always easist to just play fast.

As for Megadeth, they are very talented on thier instruments, but sometimes talent just doesn't cut it. You have to be creative, and the whole band itself was never creative. But Mustaine did know how to play guitar, and to this day he probably secretly wants to join Metallica

As for anything else, Lars is the man, and he is a top 5 drummer

 

These are some of the fucking funniest opinions I've ever heard!

 

People can laugh at my opinion, but I have heard a lot of Slayer, and a lot of people I know become Slayer fans as a way to be cool, or so they can scream Slayer all the time. They were a one of a kind, and a lot of music branched off from Slayer, but there is a lot of people listening to Slayer, because they think they have to like them in order to feel they are "metal" I am not saying ALL Slayer fans.

 

I'm a Slayer fan, not a massive one. But they have had legions of devoted fans from 2 decades and that can't just be built on what you call abit of recent exposure. And as for your opinion on the drumming! Talk to any drummers and I think they'll have a very different opinion, Dave Lombardo is regarded as one of the best modern drummers and not just in metal but in general. Lars Ulrich doesn't have even half the talent or creativity.

 

I am in a band myself, I play bass, and guitar, but I enjoy drums a lot and I agree that Slayer has devoted fans, maybe the most devoted fans in the world, honestly, but with rescent exposure they have really had a lot of fraud fans. I also have played with a lot of drummers just jamming. They all can say that about Lombardo, I just don't think he is that creative, a lot of thrash and punk bands play fast all the time. I guess I have always had a thing for the sound of Lars who takes speed and adds it his special touch to it, just not snare riding the whole time but we all differ on what we like to hear.

Chris Adler of Lamb of God is the ultimate drummer though.

 

Music's all about taste at the end of the day, lars sounds limited and simplistic to me I think he limited Metallica, especially compared to Lombardo. I'm not saying your wrong and I'm right. One of my favourite drummers of the moment is the bloke from Mastodon.

 

Don't start on Bloke, he is just amazing, one of the most technical drummers out there. Everytime I hear him, I flip out, love him.

Did you see his polka dot drumset? when he played away from the crowd? It was for sure a classic. and I like what he symbolized with the polka dots.

 

As far as drummers go, for a combination of talent and creativity I haven't heard anyone who can compete with Hellhammer from MayheM.

 

I wasn't sure where to start with my reply after reading this horrible blasphemous shit that has been said since my last reply, so I started at the top.


Where is maiden? Why would you put maiden in this thread? They don't have anything in common with these guys at all, a whole different genre of metal. Where's Anthrax?

Ok, pantera... I don't see how pantera could be considered the greatest, they took what the other guys did and remade it in the 90's. As dave mustaine once said "I'm not gonna name anybody 'cause I'm not gonna promote them. OK, we'll say 'panther' in Spanish (Pantera). You're welcome guys. We might as well be cooking their dinner for them or pushing their little wheelbarrow to the bank for them." I still love pantera, but I don't hold them as high as the godfathers of thrash.

I don't know how to rate creative voices, all of them have pretty distinct vocals.

Metallica did more for metal in the 80s than pantera did in the 90s. Metallica created a sound, all of its own, this was when the experience was unheard of, how much more intimate could you get than 10's of thousands of guys holding lighters to the sky during fade to black? or 1000's of people moshing to metal militia?

Here's where I have the most difficulty following... Slayer over-rated due to radio and festivals talking them up? ARE YOU STONED?! When does slayer get radio play? Metallica are the guys on radio. There's one thing that put slayer where they're at and its fucking slayer, the blasting music.

You sir, are not a drummer nor do you have an ear for the instrument. Dave Lombardo is one of the best drummers in the entire metal scene. Have you ever actually listened to the stuff he's playing? It's more complicated and usually more creative than lars and vinnie's combined

To say that mustaine isn't creative is to say that the first two metallica albums were boring as fuck. See my megadeth post. These guys are infact the most creative guys on the list. They've done more songs with different styles, from disco to accoustic, to allout thrash / speed metal. Using a wider varity of instruments than any of the others, including pianos, violins and mandolines. Megadeth has also had different lead guitarists with a range of different scales, such as marty's exotic eastern scales. Dime just liked to to make the guitar scream, with pinches.

Lars is not a top 5 drummer. Infact, he's rated 65th, you'll see Dave lombardo at #12 (http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html)

Lars has a decent offbeat style, but he could never play a slayer song.

Mayhem - blast beats, every extreme metal group has them.

 

Saying that all Hellhamer does is blast beats is as ignorant as saying Ulrich is better than Lombardo. Have you even heard MayheM? The albums with Hellhammer are De Mistriis Dom Sathanas, Grand Declaration of War, and Chimera. If your talking only about DMDS you might have a point, but I still think it is more creative than usual. If your talking about the other albums, either you haven't heard them or you wouldn't recognise good creative drumming if it hit you on the head.

 

I'm quite surprised about that lack of praise for Dimebag, in my mind he's the most talented guitarist from all the bands mentioned. And I'm don't think Pantera ripped off the other's, I don't they sound much like them consistantly to be honest.

 

i read your post with mixed thought, metallideath.

...and how do you know this? for all you know he could own a drum kit and be a novice.
(Would you of said this to me if I wrote what he wrote? I'd of come back with "been drumming punk for 2 years and metal for 7 years and counting mate"..)

...imo, the best part of that post.

agreed, through and through.

..okaaaay, one name - Necrophagist - listen to "to breathe in a casket", then re-check yourself.
I thought that was a shallow comment for a human metal encyclopedia such as yourself.

 

^I believe he said every extreme metal group has them, not every extreme metal song has them.

 

Okay I'll rephrase the last bit - listen to the band Necrophagist, any song, it aint just blast beating it's very tech and creative blast beating.

 

severedheadstoner, you've won the grand prize. Every extreme band has blast beats, not every song. In all honesty though, thats no different than saying that every thrash metal band has double-kick beats.

Psygrunger*, if you said what he did, I would have likely came to the same conclusion, you didn't and therefore I don't.

Creative drumming, what a term. Iced Earth has creative drumming, Slayer has creative drumming, and to take a step outside of metal, Timmy Alexander of Primus is what creative drumming is all about. One could say that nearly any drummer is creative and cite a reference, but ultimately, what is that worth? It could be argued either way

*I'll only correct you once - Metallideth, not Metallideath.

 

Typo

 

lol, everyone adds an "a" into it, its just not the same.

 

Hmm...I think if you want to judge creativity the only "true" creative bands are the ones who started the genres. Black sabbath is probably the most creative metal abnd just because they started this great form of music. I mean you could argue now bands are more creative than they ever were but when was the last time you heard a distinct sound that noone was doing? Primus is all i can think of. But every metal band has taken from sabbath. I mean there are the fathers of power metal, Thrash metal, Folk metal, Black metal, Gore metal, and so on. These guys were all creative in what they brought to the table and there creativity was so great it started a genre of music. So if were gonna argue creativity we should probably go to the early stuff. I dont know I could just be blabbing here....