Mental Health

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by edyb123, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Happy trails! And when you see God, tell him John says hello! ;)
    namaste
     
  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    It seems like you consider yourself to be way smarter than anybody else.
     
  3. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I will.
    And if you see God before I do, tell him J.I. says hello.
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    It seems like I actually base my decisions on both logic and life experience instead of just taking what society offers me for a fact.
     
  5. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I based my decisions on science. Not because of society, but because I find great logic in science.
     
  6. BraveSirRubin

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    Science completely lacks all logic and foundation.


    First of all, science pretty much re-masters itself every decade. There is much movement in the field that you can't really take anything for a fact unless it has been proven a whole lot of times over a long period of time.

    The scientific method is completely flawed. We are only able to test a very limited number of hypothesis, and base our conclusions on those tests.

    Science cannot be treated as a religion, and will not lead you to any truth. The best scientists know this.
     
  7. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I think mental illness is definitely one of the most miserable things I've ever dealt with. When I was a kid, I snapped 2 times and those were the most miserable times of my life. I couldn't leave the house without needing to go back and check on everything, I missed a HUGE chunk of school in elementary. I'd go to school until 9:30 every day once the attendance committee started threatening my parents, then they'd take attendance, and I'd leave. Every day. I'd have panic attacks all day if I stayed at school.

    I was misdiagnosed by a psychologist as clinically depressed, however, his suggestion to the school that they take me out of PE and music (we had some bitchy fucking teachers in those classes) and make me an aide gave me a pattern I could be comfortable with, time that I could use to worry about taking care of things in the classrooms, instead of time to worry about whether or not everything was okay at home.

    I never went back to a psychologist, so I've never had a correct diagnosis, though I suspect Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I've got a very obsessive personality (as you can probably tell with the Clapton thing lately...sorry, lol). Complusions aren't so bad anymore, I still tend to pace and count when I'm rattled, but I haven't had to return to check on things since 5th grade.

    I'm just really glad that my adolescence was a lot less tumultuous and that I haven't really snapped in years. It doesn't take much and I know exactly what triggered the two bad episodes when I was a kid, but it's a long and drawn-out story of things I've already blocked out of my mind and memories I'd like to do the same to. The way I see it is I'm fine now, no need to drag up the past and fuck up a good thing, you know?
     
  8. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I never said science should be treated as a religion.
    Science should also be questioned. Just like religion.
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    Then why won't you question it on this issue?
     
  10. Piaf

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    I have.
    But I still believe there is a difference between mental state and mental illness, which is caused by encephalic chemical unbalance.
    Seems logical...
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    Everything in science "seems" logical...

    I haven't seem much good come out of anti-depressants. They turn people into zombies. Happy, dumb zombies.

    I guess that ignorance is bliss.
     
  12. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    have you ever taken anti depressives ?
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    Yes. Diagnosed as severly bi-polar. Took the pills for over a year. Coming off the pills sucked. I still have to take 1/6th of the dose because I don't want to rush the coming off process.

    ...and I feel great because I've dealt with the things that were bothering me myself, and made an active change in my life.
     
  14. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    sorry guys. But what the hell is bi-polar?

    I spent way too much time in mental hospitals in my teens but have never heard of this illness. I'm presuming manic depression.
     
  15. Piaf

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    I did not know that....
    Well, pills work for some people and sometimes pills just make it worse.
    I guess everyone should be viewed individually, without generalizing.
    Anyway, I dont know you, but I'm glad you're okay now.
     
  16. Piaf

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    Yes.
     
  17. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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  18. BraveSirRubin

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    I've always felt fine. I just think that I was born either 1000 years too late or too soon.

    Pills do work. But, I don't think that pills help in the big scale. It's like taking a pain pill for a headache. It may take away the symptoms, but it doesn't cure the cause.
     
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    It does if its caused by a chemical unbalance ( here I go again ;) ).
    If not....
     
  20. BraveSirRubin

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    I still disagree.

    Even if it does fix the chemical imbalance, there's much much much much much more to fix... and only the person himself can fix it. That's the only way out of depression.

    Otherwise it's just numbness.
     

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