Mental Health

Physical problems ultimately express themselves through the mind. Mental problems express themselves through the mind and body. Yeah, mental illness of any kind sucks.

Statistically, everyone on here either has a mental illness or knows someone with something.

 

Regardless of how they are triggered.. if our mind IS our brain and our brain is simply a whole load of chemicals.. then any kind of thought process or state is down to the balance of those chemicals... whatever we think is all down to those chemicals.. so there can't be a difference between being angry and having szchizophrenia... it's all just variations of the same chemicals.

 

Thinking itself cant cause encephalic chemical unbalance. And when you're angry, theres nothing wrong with your brain. Theres is an outside reason why you're angry. Theres isnt an outside reason why you have schizophrenia.
I dont know how to explain it, but it all seems pretty logical to me.

 

I think the whole mental health issue is a very commonly debated topic... many doctors/psychiatrists are split down the middle as to what approach to take... some say medication.. some say counciling.. it's hard to know really.

 

To know what to do, doctors first have to know the cause of the problem.
But if its scizophrenia or any other similar severe problem, then definately medication.
Thats how I'm gonna treat my patients.

 

yeah, i'm not for popping pills. I don't beleive ever that a pill can solve your problems. But that is SO much easier to say,when you're not the one living with those problems. I think medication can help, but that you got to follow through, and really do a lot of other changes in your life to help yourself get better. Doesnt end just with a pill.

 

An overload of psychedelics is nothing but pure insanity. I've not dealt with any mental illness, in other words, pure delusional torture, and thank God for that. But there's been times on magic mushroom trips that I completley lost all comprehension of reality and truly feared that whatever the hell I was going through was never going to go away. Id never wish that condition on anyone, it's hell at it's finest!
namaste

 

You cant compare yourself taking substances to a mental patient taking them. Some people need medication to function normally.

 

Im not! That's why I said thank God I've not had to deal with insantiy. Im just saying when your spun in a bad way, of course I cant compare without being another person, but I imagine that losing your mind on psychedelic drugs is probably pretty similar to the people who are naturally tortured by their own minds visions and delusions. I cant say which is more severe, but I dont know, eat an ounce of shrooms and you'll see what I mean. Even a grown man can be broken down to crying for his mommy to make it go away.
Namaste

 

....tortured by their own minds visions and delusions...well said.

 

Most mental illnesses are also triggered by certain external factors.

You cannot simply say "That person is clinically maniac depressive" just by asking them a couple of questions and giving them some tests.

I also hate the notion that people are expected to function "normally", as you say.

 

Thanks Piaf
Although they may not be delusions, they may be seeing another side of reality that most of us are blind to. It's impossible to say, because we are not like them. Half of what you experience on psychedelics is nonsense, and the other half is some of the most divine insight a person can expect to recieve. It's reading between the lines that makes all the difference between lala land and heaven
namaste

 

To function normally means living in reality, no hallucinations and no delusions. Being able to do everyday things. A person suffering from maniac dpression probably isnt able to do that.
Mental illness is mostly triggered by internal factors.
But external factors can make it worse. However, they dont originally induce it.

 

You see, I just don't buy that. I know people, and I know a whole lot of crazy folk, know their stories, and I can formulate a reason for their craziness based on their life experiences. To just think that it's all chemicals in your head is an ugly way of oversimplifying the human mind and the entire experience of life. Science has proved to fail in many categories, and I think that it will prove to fail in this one.

 

Maybe their mental condition makes them able to see a whole new level we cant see...

 

Well, I am gonna stick to this untill science proves me wrong. So far it hasnt.

 

Exactly. When LSD first came out, they did tests with it because doctors thought that the drug allowed average people to take a glimpse into the mind of a schizo and therefor have more empathy and be able to help treat them better since they sort of knew what they were going through.
But the relation between magic mushrooms and concepts of God and mysticism cant be denied....
namaste

 

Ofcourse it hasn't.

We have no ways of knowing what all of this damn medication actually does to a person on the long run.

I hope that human kind just drops dead in a dozen or two years. That would be an ironic ending to something which was designed to "cure sadness".

 

I tell you, if I ever finish med school , I'm gonna try LSD just to take a glimpse into the mind of a schizo

 

We are all individuals.. so we all experience reality in different ways.. therefore reality is subjective to everyone.

Most people only experience reality in slightly different ways to each other.. but some vary an awful lot... therefore.. no one is 'normal' but most people are in the same rough area.. the few that aren't are deemed by some as 'ill' but they are not ill.. just different.