Men and women being “equal”

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by WomenPower, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Wrat my old friend – but you have never debated honestly in all the time I’ve known you.

    For example just look at your posts in this thread

    I mean you have been asked the same question six, seven, eight, times or more and you just keep evading or ignoring them while pumping out some more BS that you again will not answer questions on or address criticisms of.

    As I’ve said earlier you should expect to have the piss taken out of you when you are so blatantly dishonest

    You could redeem yourself, you could begin debating honestly, you could answer the questions put to you in a clear and concise way or you could address the many MANY outstanding criticisms of your views – but I’m sure you won’t because I think you are fundamentally a dishonest person.
     
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  2. wrat1

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    LOL at your manipulative tactics
     
  3. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Do you want to discuss it? I think there's room for improvement; quite a lot of room.

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  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I see a lot of information supporting the idea that women are not compensated equally.
    Other problems persist.
    In the home, for example the expectation prevails that women are responsible for cooking.
    & often enough, if the woman of the house doesn't do the dishes after a meal they sit until the next day and aren't clean in time to serve the next meal.
     
  5. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    That chart was created by an unreliable source due to their inherent bias.
     
  6. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Wrat1

    Oh you are a hoot - its not manipulation it’s just reading – all anyone needs to do is read the thread to see your inability to debate honestly
     
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  7. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I understand your disagreement with the chart.


    Do you think it's wrong? I think our state has a significant gap. :)

    Which state is yours?
     
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  8. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    looks like Utah does pretty well. Unless the map is biased.

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  9. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Horse

    Can you back this up?

    Or LOL are you going to claim this is an improper forum to do that in?
     
  10. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It's a paradigm... :worried:
     
  11. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    All it took to was minimal legwork on Google to find this but here you are

    Home – AAUW : Empowering Women Since 1881

    Now let's see......if a site is entirely built on the idea that inequality for women is an absolute truth and is entirely dependent upon donations from the site's visitors to stay in operation then how would their information not be biased? If your entire livelihood is based upon preconditions then must maintain those preconditions.

    Also @Balbus it is because of remarks like that I will not engage with you on previous post.

    @soulcompromise Indiana
     
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  12. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Ah... Is there any pay gap that you've noticed?
     
  13. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Horse

    LOL you think it biased because you think it biased – not a great argument – have you anything slightly more concrete?

    Oh and I can’t help if you have no sense of humour I mean when you come up with half arse excuses for stuff like that 'improper' excuse it is very funny
     
  14. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    "such things as pay or in law"
    Where did the original poster bring this up?
    Or did somebody else try to make it about that?

    I'd like to find one person who disagrees with that statement above in bold.
    Just one!
    Anybody?
    At all?
    Anywhere?
    Hello....

    Some people can be thick...
     
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  15. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Trudge

    So the original poster seems to be saying they do not agree with women getting equal pay

    I did asked what was meant but didn’t get a reply beyond them having no problem with women getting less less pay because they falsely though men worked more than women.

    This is my whole point about honest debate if people are just not willing to answer questions or address criticisms then it can be unsure what their views really are.
     
  16. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    It truly appalls me that after at least 150 years and a Constitutional amendment this is still even considered a debatable point.
     
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  17. wrat1

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    Check post #69
     
  18. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Wrat1

    How are you blaming this on Covid when the pay gap model Soul posted is for pre Covid which is clearly written on it -

    “2017 median annual earnings ratio for full-time, year-round workers, by state and gender. State pay gaps are displayed rounded to the nearest whole percentage but are ranked by unrounded percentage.”

    (the 2019 version is here (still pre-covid) - Gender Pay Gap by State – AAUW : Empowering Women Since 1881)
     
  19. DarthDva

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    Its a bit of a difficult topic to discuss.

    In an ideal society most people don't have to work to survive and UBI is given for basic needs (food water shelter and some spending money to circulate the economy.)

    So like in the 50's women did not have to work because the economy was better and only a man had to work a 9 to 5. But we can't talk about that because modern women want to work nowadays, but this creates a second problem of women also working while also doing dishes and raising the kids.

    So to avoid that problem altogether its better just to create a gender neutral society where most people don't work and people have free time to do the activities they want.
     
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  20. wrat1

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    I was not blaming anything on anything I was QUOTING an article jeez
     

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