Men and women being “equal”

Sorry Wrat are you that dishonest

You told us to look at post 69 as a reply to what Soul had posted - in that post you quoting something that put the reason for the gender pay gap on Covid

The question you have failed to answer is - How are you blaming this on Covid when the pay gap model posted by Soul was from 2017?

 

Well in the three years I've been homeless I wouldn't be able to answer. Prior to that I'd say not as far as I saw.

I stated in my post how it was biased Balbus. Thinking critically is a skill that takes years to master.

 

This is my original post in its entirety


Relevant and disappointing

It could take U.S. women 61.5 years to reach pay equity with men, new report says

• The COVID-19 pandemic has widened disparities, both in the U.S. and abroad, with women exiting the workforce at higher rates "partly due to their disproportionate representation in sectors directly disrupted by lockdowns," the report says.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/01/wef...nder-gap-it-will-take-135-years-to-close.html

One reason why the gender gap has widened is that sectors hit hard by Covid-19 — such as tourism and retail — happen to employ many women, she said.


My quote was a KEY POINT taken from the article

KEY POINTS

• The pandemic has worsened the global gender gap, and the World Economic Forum predicts it will now take 135.6 years to reach parity, up from about 100 years before the crisis hit.
• “100 years to global gender parity was already not good enough, and now (it is) 136 years globally,” said Saadia Zahidi, a managing director at the World Economic Forum.
• One reason why the gender gap has widened is that sectors hit hard by Covid-19 — such as tourism and retail — happen to employ many women, she said.

I was not blaming any thing on anything and if you look at my first statement in the post you find my views on it.

Engaging with you is a waste of time as you continue to take things out of context while at the same time using personal and ad hominin attacks

 

Horse

This is what you posted

In other words they must be biased because you think they must be biased – again have you anything more concrete?

 

Wrat1

LOL – so you told us to go look at post 69 after directly quoting what Soul has posted and you did that because post 69 had nothing to with what Soul had posted

How does that work?

 

So what is it Balbus? Can you not understand the words as typed? Is it that you dunna understand the meaning of bias? The rationale offered to back up the conclusion? All of the above?

If a group's entire agenda is to prove one particular point of view then that group is starting from an inherently biased position. This is further compounded by the fact that the group in question is also reliant upon the funding of those whom they are in agreement with in their bias. If a group canna come to a conclusion from an entirely neutral starting position then their work and conclusions canna be taken at face value. This is accepted scientific principle and is at least in claim the principle of the United States judicial system too.

Hopefully spelling it out to the minutest detail helps. If not then at least I have plausible deniability. The ball is entirely in your court and I'm bowing out of the game because it's clear that I have an unfair advantage

 

Horse

But you are just repeating yourself – you think what has been produced is wrong (unreliable) because it is biased, and you think it is biased because you think it is biased and therefore must be wrong.

I’m asking what evidence can you produce to back up your claim that what has been produced is wrong other than that you think the place where it has been put up is in your opinion biased?

Hopefully spelling it out to the minutest detail helps.

 

Never mind Balbus never mind I can see the smoke coming out betwixt yer ears.

 

Some people prefer to sow discord.

You could say it's as obvious as the nose on your face and they'd start in about your nose. There is zero intention to trade talking points. They just want to have their way. Reality be damned!

 

Exactly. But you see the whole leftist approach is to coerce people into believing they're being screwed over somehow and that only the govt can step in and even the score by assigning an offender and taking them down a peg or two. They want people reliant on them enough that they fear what could happen if they're not. And it works! They prey on people's fears, conquer, and divide.

 

That would be like, picture an indiginous community and they have a communal garden. So most people say eff it, I don't want to work, I just want to eat, so I'll kick back while the others go prepare the soil, sow the seeds, water, fertilize, weed, thin, and eventually harvest -- then I'll lift my hand, but only to accept my share of the goods.

And in today's situation, it's not necessary for a married woman to work outside the home to bring in money. That's just a myth perpetuated by the feminists in cahoots with the commercial industrial complex to increase the labor pool in order to reduce labor costs.

 

this. ^

Which is why im not a leftist im more of a centrist that likes to add various aspects of politics together.

 

the quote "he who does not work shall not eat" was made in the 1700s. Nowadays we shall have lots of robots to do jobs and human workers are less and less needed for infrastructure.

lolwut. Talk about conspiracies lol.

If anything its propoganda of leftists who want to raise minimum wage, working in collusion with right-wingers to praise trad values, not neoliberals wanting to increase the pool of low wage workers.

 

It's complex, of course. But if you're interested in expanding your knowledge base, here's something you can listen to.

 

Horse

And I notice once again – you are unwilling or unable to actually answer the question.

 

Trudge

Actually just a cursory examination show that it is the right that push the idea that people are being ‘screwed over’- they are constantly spreading fear of others – from lefties wanting to do bad things – immigrants stealing your jobs and raping your women – ‘big government’ taking away your rights - the disadvantaged wanting to ‘even the score’ – black people wanting to ‘defund’ the police so they can go on a rampage – lefties stuffing voting boxes - hidden conspirators ruling the world - Jewish lasers – and so on and so on and so on

Just go to any right-wing site or media outlet and they all are spreading divisive fear and hate.


LOL and have you noticed right wingers then want the government to do something about it, like build walls and bring in voter suppression laws.

 

Trudge

LOL Yes you would act like that - because you are one of nature’s lazy freeloaders who puts little or no effort into anything.

As I’ve said before it amazes me how lazy many on the right are.

I know of a few communal garden, even helped with a couple people do it for many reasons, community spirit, exercise, meeting people, the fun, pleasure of seeing things grow but very seldom for selfish reasons, many grow flowers not food and others mainly give the food away to people in need especially during the covid lockdown.

The thing is because of all the fear and hate on the right many right wingers are twisted nasty people that reject community in favour of greed and selfishness – and I feel sorry for them.

 

Trudge

LOL and in today's situation, it's not necessary for a married man to work outside the home to bring in money why not have the women go out and earn the money and the man can stay at home and clean the house and look after the children.

The thing is many women want to work and have a career and why shouldn’t they?

Sorry but have you actually met any working women have you been in a workplace with women, I mean I know many women who really like and enjoy working, I work alongside many happy, intelligent people of which many happen to be women.

OH no not another BS video that doesn’t answer any of the questions levelled at YOU or addresses any of the many outstanding criticism directed at YOU - As I’ve said before it amazes me how lazy many on the right are.

 

there is no such thing as equality these days, well not true equality anyway, look at the working world, women are getting jobs not because they are the most suitable person by way of their experience/qualifications, but simply by virtue of the fact they are female.
now I'm not saying a feamle isn't as capable as a male in doing most jobs, what I mean is that the days of getting a job based on truly being the most suitable are gone. Nowadays the most suitable person for the job is likely to be the person who matches whatever requirement is in vogue at the time, 'we need more women' , or 'we need more coloured people' , or 'we need more gays' .
Why the hell have we lost sight of what really makes a person the best candidate for a job, i.e their ability to do that job! Suppose you needed life saving surgery and you have a choice of two surgeons, one has performed the operation hundreds of times and has been a surgeon for over twenty years, the other has been doing the job for a year, has never performed that operation before and was previously a builders labourer, in fact the only reason he got the job was he happens to be gay, and the hospital wanted more gay people on the staff, I know who I'd want to do the operation.

It's a very sad and backward world we're living in when the suitability of a person for a job is based on a perceived requirement rather than a persons actual experience and qualifications to do the job. look at the police service, back in the 1930's Lord Trenchard had a policy of recruiting police officers to the higher ranks based not on their experience or number of arrests or crimes solved, but on their educational background. You were more likely to become a chief inspector if you'd been to a university, or one of the top colleges, than if you were an experienced copper with a good track record. These people were not popular amongst the rest of the force due to their lack of knowledge on how to actually carry out policing. Sadly this is happening again today and all new police recruits must either have a university degree or be working towards one, god help us all when these people hit the streets.
As long as the current trends are followed I'm afraid we'll never see true equality, be it amongst males and females, or any other group, true equality means the best man, or woman for the job based on their ability to do that job, unfortunately diversity is now allowed to play too big a part in the selection of a person for a position

 

Phil

Can you please back this up?

Can you please back this up?

Can you please give evidence of a builder’s labourer getting a surgeons post?