Melania Trump Plagiarizes Michelle Obama

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  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So it seems Melania Trump plagiarized Michelle's 2008 convention speech about her husband. Some parts are word for word.

    Here's a portion, guess who said what:

     
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    Apparently the values she was taught as a child did not include using your own words when writing a speech or at least acknowledge the original writer when using the exact words of someone else.
     
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    The sentiment is generic enough and the passage short enough that any claim of plagiarism is insignificant.

    It's obvious that the motive for pointing this out is political.

    Democrats and Republicans both make spurious partisan attacks. What's amazing to me is that some people seem to be so deep into partisanship that they don't recognize spurious partisan attacks for what they are.
     
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    I listened to both speeches, Obama's and Trump's. There were at least five places or sentences that were exactly identical, word for word. If that's not a case of plagiarism, I should have my PHD by mail in a few days.
     
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  11. SpacemanSpiff

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    they just played this on our local news...

    should be a good day because it started with a good laugh


    the trumps are a joke that just never goes away
     
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  13. MeAgain

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    There is no question that this was plagiarism.


    Trump's speech could be an example of mosaic plagiarism, inadequate paraphrasing, or uncited paraphrasing...in my opinion. ~ Harvard Guide to Using Sources

    The reason to point this out is that it shows the carelessness and disregard for the truth that is rampant in Trump's campaign. Melania clearly didn't write this speech herself and didn't know she was plagiarizing...she was reading a script. But her speech writers obviously looked at Michelle's speech and used parts of it without even taking the time or effort to try and paraphrase her ideas. It shows the high regard they hold for their audience. They assumed they could just pass this off and no one would notice! This is not a minor issue, it speaks to Donald Trump's entire modus operandi, lie, steal, and cheat, and then claim the other side is at fault. He's been doing this to Hillary and his rivals all year.

    So the Republican Presidential campaign plagiarizes the past Presidential campaign of the current President and it's the Democrat's fault for calling attention to it!
    How dare they!
     
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    Melania Trump can talk? Hmmmm... Learn sumthin' new every day.



    The whole fucking family is a train wreck....
     
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    So for the sake of bipartisanship we should all just let Donald Trump get away with whatever and never say a word?

    Really dude?

    This is so obviously plagiarism.
     
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    I disagree. I think Ivanka is brilliant. At least I thought she was, until I learned that she was supporting her dad.
     
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    By your definition, if Obama said "God bless America!", and did not site a source, he would be a plagiarist, as he would not be the first to use those exact same words. Likewise, was Michelle Obama the first person to ever say, "your word is your bond", or "treat people with respect"? These are generic sentiments that are part of common parlance. There is no court in the country that would uphold any claim of plagiarism based on the quote you cited.

    I would be absolutely unsurprised if Michele Obama's speech was studied and similarities deliberately added. Just enough to get people talking, but well below the level where legal action could be taken.

    Donald Trump's entire modus operandi during this political campaign is to say and do completely outrageous shit which is nonetheless clearly legal. Then everyone starts talking about the outrageous shit that Trump has done, he gets lots of free press, and his poll numbers go up.

    You are getting Trump trolled.



    It's an absolutely trivial issue
     
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    Please see post#11 and get back to me if there is something I didn't cover
     
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  25. Meliai

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    I'm not sure if you've listened to either speech or you would realize parts of it were word for word the same. Eerie coincidence, or not.

    But i do agree Trump is a troll and this is trivial, trivial at least compared to the fact that this empty,narcissistic bobblehead could be our next president. Yikes!
     
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    Goddamn. couldn't they have at least tried to be a bit more original
     
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  29. MeAgain

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    Well, I've written a lot of research papers in my day. Read a lot, corrected a lot. Wrote a Master's paper, two Federal grants, and worked in editing and printing for over ten years...I thought I knew what plagiarism was.

    If standing up for what is right is being Trump trolled then I guess I am and always will be.
     
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  31. MeAgain

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    Another coincidence:

    (I removed the link to Melania Trump)
    Marva Collins was also a black women.
     
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    Well, you can't blame Donny. She does have nice parts.
     
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    Melania Trump has claimed she holds a college degree. Several sites have looked into it and found she dropped out...never got a degree!
     
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  39. Moonglow181

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    I have no idea why these lyrics popped into my mind after first hearing about this....





    If I Only Had a Brain (unused dance music)

    By MGM Studio Orchestra

    I could while away the hours
    Conferrin' with the flowers,
    Consulting with the rain;
    And my head I'd be a scratchin'
    While my thoughts are busy hatchin'
    If I only had a brain.
    I'd unravel ev'ry riddle for my
    Individdle
    In trouble or in pain
    With the thoughts that you'll be thinkin'
    You could be another Lincoln
    If you only had a brain.
    Oh, I, could tell you why
    The oceans near the shore
    I could think of things I'd never
    Thunk before,
    And then I'd sit down and think some more.
    I would not be just a muffin',
    My head all full of stuffin',
    My heart all full of pain;
    And perhaps I'd deserve you and be
    Even worthy even you
    If I only had a brain.
     
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