Meditation Warning

Discussion in 'Yoga and Meditation' started by HonorSeed, May 4, 2006.

  1. HonorSeed

    HonorSeed Senior Member

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    okay the resolution funked up on the timegate photo, be right back.
     
  2. HonorSeed

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    well fixing the clarity of the timegate is going to take some time, but I am opening up one of my webpages to showing artwork the depicts any visions you may have had, and this is an invite to you too Chodpa. You can send it along with a short explanation of what it is, your interpretations and whatever else to honor@reachone.com. I may have to sort it outta the spam filter, that's okay. I figure there is a lot of words that can be said about these visions while doing meditation, and a lot more interest than people respond to, cause the readership number hit 1000 yesterday. So I am turning over a full page on my www.honorseed.com website to visions, not sure which page that will be, but I think it compliments the stuff I will be selling on there which will be changing to mystical the further the year progresses.
    I'll give an explanation of the timegate maybe by tommorrow night when I get the clarity right. Been real busy ....figure it will limit the incoming telepathic vibes, and it has so far. I sure don't want the stress of the 4th of July holiday to cause any problems with me as these kind of mass peoples emotions tend to be real powerful around holidays.

    peace
    Honor
     
  3. Chodpa

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    I was not really allowed to show that pic.
     
  4. MagnanimityMan

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    WOW!!! did the camera really naturally capture that??
     
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    This is Namkhai Norbu - a Dzogchen Rinpoche.
     
  7. HonorSeed

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    After contemplating the image Chodpa shared the last hour outside in the last sunrays of the day......I will share the last thoughts first.
    It is fun to speculate what these timegates are about. I thought it may be a way that Jesus Christ could step through to now and here from a point in his life he saw the vision of a timegate. He would then live out the rest of his life here a second time from that age on naturally. I don't think people would crucify him for healing people for free, there are probably a few people who would like to crucify a few doctors for not healing them though, and charging a lot of money.

    Another thought is that my vision will allow me to do the same thing far into the future into a future time, after my spirit parts my body.
    My timegate was 6 feet tall and may be a manifestation of spirit/body in time sync quite removed from conventional logic. There were more rings than the art I did, maybe 13-21. They are a mixture of dark and white light energy and sharply contrasted. The rings moved in opposite directions like the door of a time vault was being unlocked. I looked away so that did not happen then. Looked back and watched some more. Some of the concentric rings spun smoothly and quick, others moved more slowly. When I did the art they also spun on the screen at times.

    The symbols and colors, as well as the background are not the same as the vision. I was laying on my side on grass looking at bushes with tall spruce trees behind them. Laying on the ground is a way to heal.
    I have never seen other visions act as some did before, during and after the vision of that timegate. Te visions of normal sized people in a semi dark cloud energy texture, but with features, were not standing on limbs as they usually do. The y were walking sideways up the trunk of the trees at the same time behind the timegate vision which was right where the grass ended and the natural landscaping of trees and bushes started. I was at a friends' home.

    I'm not sure whether the two other very unusual visions happened before or after the timegate or both times. One was to the west and slightly north. The other was to the east and slightly north. Both were seen through high powered binoculars.

    The pair of intensely white light robed entities to the west were spotted through what is extremely dense vegetation, however when I saw the pair the trees and bushes were not in the way, and I looked several hundred yards through dense thickets. When I first spotted them, I had the extreme sensation they could come at me so fast right through the binoculars into my eyes, my body, it was not to be so. After that I had the feeling this pair of entities to be very elusive and powerful. It could have been a deception.

    The visions to the east were spotted several hundred feet away also with the binoculars. The energy gathered on tree limbs in all the different times, maybe a dozen. It was the darker energy which blocks the sight of what is behind it, as the timegate did. Noted also, Chodpas' white light timegate, which has 10 concentric rings does not block the sight of what is behind it.
    These entities on the tree branches started to form into a shape of some creature or being as I watched wiht much expectation of identifying the shape. Just as it was about to happen, the whole vision suddenly disappeared. Also my binoculars, which I was fine focusing with the knob at the time, were as if they were pointed a different direction looking at a different part of the tree top forest over the house and across the street. I put them down to try to figure out which direction my field of vision moved, I never did figure it out. It was as if I had super fast moved the binoculars to one side, happened in an instant right when the shape almost materialized.

    Today I was sitting under the trees in contemplation of flies hovering above me at about 15 feet. I saw an energy field around them as I had seen around a spider on the ceiling the previous days now. There seems to be the vision of enrgy around insects at this time for me. It makes what is behind this energy look blurry, like looking through a thin layer of water. I noticed the flies suddenly took off so fast from hovering I could barely make out what direction they went. The similarity between the flies and the 12-15 foot visions in the trees that day strikes me. I speculate they were large insects. I have noticed many real insects seem to recognize when I look at them. However, there is an insect like character about some people, and this may have been my way of accepting visually the manifestation of these peoples' group entity brainwave energy. I do not think I was deceived on the properties of this eastern vision as I may have been on the essence of the western vision.

    I noticed a similarity between the two white light figures showing through hundreds of feet of forest and some ball lightening which came off the ocean one night about midnight. The explosion of electrical charges off the watery sand at the beach, or further out into the ocean, left mushroom shaped clouds of energy which I saw through a mile or more of trees.

    My friends drove down there later and watched it. One thought the end of the world was coming. I looked into a lightening explosion one day at a very far distance and had the sense it opened momentarily a different spiritual level, perhaps infinitely small like the center of a proton, a place where possibly spirit returns after the body ends.
    Lightening seemed to have a particular personality of its' own for trying to hit me. Maybe that is a deception.

    Possibly in a distant world, as in the myths of lore, there are real people with powerful telepathic minds who engage in warfare using natures awesome forces to destroy each other. Possibly some of us are learning just how powerful any feelings and thoughts we have can be. Both for healing and destruction we all step into a new age of the mind. Now for some info off the back of a corn flake box.

    You have 93,000 miles of peripheral nerves. ( See why you're nervous?) Your fastest nerves send impulses at up to 395 feet/second at up to 300 impulse per second. (See why you're impulsive?)

    I see a similarity between our own electro-chemical impulses moving that fast and the two white light hooded ones. It is as if my entire nervous system was outside my body except for my brain. I have had the experience at about age 7 of my mind raising 40-50 above me when I was laying on the ground. And later dream or daydreamed the vision of it as a white orb the same size.

    Perhaps when we pass on, and before we are born we exist in the grace of God as this white light waiting to experience the time we call lif,e as a so called gift ourselves from God. This is plausible. However this may be a deception, for I believe we are balanced with both dark and light energy. I believe it takes both for material bodily life to exist.

    I would put this white light time gate photo on my website Chodpa, but first the faces have to be cropped out preferably at a line just above the persons' head leaving the width. I have a policy of not releasing my own or others pictures because I telepathically can connect with a person looking at a face. So do others' subconsciously. I don't mind as much the telepathic connection we have now, because it comes with the words that are inside rather than the 'cover of a book'.

    Writing about books, for a while there, any question I had, I went to the extensive library I have, grabbed a book and arbitrarily opened it to a page which contained the answer I was seeking. It is like my nervous system is outside me, yes it is:)

    peace and sunshine
    Honor Seed
     
  8. HonorSeed

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    It may be easier to copy and paste this message onto a notepad, it's so wide I can't read it without sideways scrolling every sentence......lol, take care.
     
  9. Chodpa

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    Please don't use the photos on your website. I did not have permission to use them myself, but I showed them because you may have been interested. For your eyes only. Sort of.

    At any rate, these sorts of visions are part of what is described in Dzogchen as Togel visions. They are all still considered 'nyam' or mere experiences and not the ultimate truth, which as always, in Dzogchen, is considered rigpa, or the unification of emptiness, clarity, and effulgence.

    Sorry, I had to delete the photos. I was not given permission to use them. Hope people understand. They were mean't to be kept private.
     
  10. HonorSeed

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    well all I can do is keep my copy to look at later Chodpa, perhaps you would ask the person who took the picture for permission?

    As an aside, I was permanently banished from AOL metaphysical chatroom when I made the comment that I received telepathically the sensation of sexual feelings from the person who was enjoying my written messages in the PM live sending of sentences back and forth. I'm glad to make the acquaintance of people here who are rational and do not let their feelings predominate the copious discourse. The time delay of the newsgroup format helps. I have no wish for anyone here to receive my telepathic feelings today which were ones of extreme physical duress.

    peace and sunshiney days to you,
    Honor Seed
     
  11. MagnanimityMan

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    i gotta thank everyone here for everyeveryeverything you all have been sharing in this thread,,, i can't even tell you guys how much sense it's all making to me now these last few days,, everyone's messages,



    thanks!
     
  12. HonorSeed

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    thanks a lot magman, that is how I feel too! It charges our intellect like a healing crystal to reflect in a similar way telepathically.......it is as if we face each other with our hands joined and eyes closed.........my head is tingling in a comforting way. I'm curious, have you tried this way of sharing love telepathically?

    peace,
    Honor Seed
     
  13. MagnanimityMan

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    i do pray for people alot,
    sometimes i'm convinced i sense what's not 'in love', and intend love,,
    ~which, i've gathered through words you shared with me, might not always be an instant bridge for the person not 'in love',,
    **also, i'm understanding,: who am i to judge such 'not love'???,,
    *why must everything be 'in love'?,,
    it shouldn't,,
    sometimes sternness is part of the balance,,
    and maybe even anger or hatred, who knows??
    *i've learn to KEEP IT REAL* =P, something that since hearing again just the other day through a friend, INSTANTLY made sense in it's application =P

    this balance, i can't help my philosophical mind from reasoning, is always only percieved,,

    but, John Berger said,, 'the baby looks and see's before it speaks', or something like that,, 'vision comes before words', or something,,

    i dont know if my intending love is wrong of me or not,, i do know often times it shuts people up in their 'dance' of whatever i'm perceiving to be 'not in love',, which shows the bridge aint instant,, but,, it's foundation for a bridge,, or, rather, maybe the 'shutting up' is hitting the wall that needs to be broken down so that the individual can cross over to love?
    or maybe, i'm just too controlling =P
    which, rehhh, i dont intend to be,,
    just want love ~


    when i say i pray for people a lot, truly, i almost am always praying,, as i'm walking through life,,, just, turning keys,,,
    either damn controlling (in my ignorance now), or doing good,, dunno, but i'm prayin*
     
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    oo, reading your post again,,
    yeahh~~~ just yesterday i was lead to a prayer for someone specific, which, i found myself praying exactly** like that,,

    eyes closed, hands joined =P i didn't invision joining hands with the prayeree, but my hands were facing out infront of me,, something i'm sure i've done before, but yesterday's was very obvious for me
    thanks honorseed =)

     
  15. HonorSeed

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    interesting, I just wrote to another hipforum member not more than a few minutes ago, to talk to Jesus rather than pray, prayer is so powerful.

    blessed be
    honor
     
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    i never believed in jesus,,, i saw him as a prophet, and lovvve the story behind him,, but i never accepted him as my lord and savior,, it's just too hard to,,
    i once heard,, (i think i already wrote this in this thread), that there is the known, the unknown, and the unknowable~

    to me, jesus is the unknowable,,
    but, i guess today, i'll say hello, to see for myself,,
    i heard on the planeride home a song on the airplanes folk station that the lyrics went like:
    "and i married you, just to give ya a try,"
    ..something about "aint have no witness, not one witness"
    "save almighty God"

    are these just mirrors? cuz... well, damn, i'd hate to leave a good Man out, what can you share with me about jesus, besides the weary fact that it's simply having faith or not,,
     
  17. Chodpa

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    Jesus is the exoteric Vajra Guru. Nothing new there.
     
  18. HonorSeed

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    The intense quanity of living peoples' thoughts about Jesus have created a living telepathic memory bundle. This belief in Jesus is of course a melting pot for slightly different viewpoints that span the spectrum of all conceptual ideas. Generally, my opinion is that the majority of people who think in any depth about Jesus, think about him as a healing man.
    As a result, and it is a unique situation that is greater than any eastern philosopy prophet will ever be, a living telepathic energy fairly emulates the vision connection I made with Jesus the man. When I imagined I was comforting him with a hug and love , I was hugged back right after that with pressure applied around my body just as if I was hugged by a living person. The telepathic bundle of living energy can and does frequently apply pressure of different sorts to people. ATS newsgroup under paranormal studies is full of stories about less than desirable energy putting tactile pressure to the body. The unique situation here with focusing on the image of Jesus in a white robe and giving him a loving hug, is that the telepathic energy responded to my initiation. In this same way, it is possible that people who talk to Jesus as if he was listening, create a healing flow back from the bundled telepathic energy of all people who think deeply about Jesus as a healing soul while he lived. I believe I was healed from a malignant cancer that the doctor told me should have killed me a long time ago. I did it without chemo or radiation. I talked to Jesus and praised him, talked to God and praised God as an energy, not a 'him'. I did not get any words back I believed came from either. What I did find out is that there is an absolutely tremendous quanity of healing power coming from living people who think deeply and calmly about the man who came and healed. A wise man, a man who took upon the anguish of his mind on the cross the telepathic incoming thoughts of many suffering at the time. He did want to die at that point in time and asked why God his father had forsaken him. What had forsaken him was all the living bundled telepathic energy at the time of the public display of his execution. The most telepathic power coming from people watching. Or at least they were the ones relaying the input of suffering from all others in the world who would never be healed by the healing touch of Jesus. This saddened Jesus greatly at the last moment as he was fufilling prophecy of the ancients. But you see, Jesus, even with all his ability to forsee the future did not anticipate this thing: 1. His love for people as relates to the ability of people to inflict their very feelings of suffering on him all at once.
    It was one last attempt to heal the world with peace and the casting out of the evil side of peoples' nature, quite in harmony with the way he lived.

    Bless you hearts and have a Happy 4th of July,
    Honor Seed

    As the snow flies..............Elvis...........listen to it......IN THE GHETTO ........it is about the birth of Jesus.........and I weep now for him.

    And the whole world of living telepathic energy that believes deeply in Jesus does not dry these tears from my eyes, nor the others, nor the whole world. If it was God instead of people that I feel, these tears would be dryed and I would heal. Blessed be.
     
  19. HippieFlowerGirl67

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    I'm Lutheran so would meditation not be good for me? Does it/would it clash with my beliefs?
     
  20. MagnanimityMan

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    what's the lutheran church all about??

    meditation i couldn't believe clashing with your believes,, unless they say 'do not meditate',,,
    when you're driving, and you have driven a while without even knowing you were driving,, this 'zonking out' ,, this calmness and of letting go of being so conscious of driving down the road,, this could be called something like meditation,,
    it's exploring the realm of your calmness and relaxation,, your inner essence,, not even really exploring,, but experiencing*,,
    but, i dont know if it conflicts with lutheran belief,,
     

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