you don't smoke do you sunshine?!!! tehe, i hope not, otherwise mother duck'll be having words!!! remember, be at peace with yourself first, then you can bring peace to others it's funny how people take sides....way to go, fight for peace. seriously, take a step back and look at yourselves and this is a free speech site, so you can talk about everything, but if it gets personal then that aint free speech....sal may be away, but skip is around so don't think the mice can play
Yeah Kier, and patronising people with a tone of smug self-righteousness is always a really good way to calm things down.
no, i just really don't like conflict dok...im sorry if your saw it as self-righteousness....and i can't calm it down, that's up to the people involved im not really expressing my view, as im like sunny, an ethical eater
Sorry Kier, I admit that I'm feeling a little tetchy and not inclined to my usual level of discretion and tact, but when an 18yr old kid wanders into the middle of a flame fest and starts dispensing such gems of wisdom as "remember, be at peace with yourself first, then you can bring peace to others", it's gonna come across as patronising to the grown ups, ok? I have that postcard too.
dok...im not sure if that was intentional...but grown ups? so can people of my age not discuss this? nice view, please don't get me down, im quite high right now and it's lovely
It was entirely intentional. And you're welcome to discuss whatever you want. Patronising me falls into a different category. If you want to maintain your good mood so much, then piss off and stop provoking me.
dok, i was speaking in general terms, i really wasn't picking anyone out and i wouldn't let something like this get me down, just kinda shocked me a bit, oh well...
I know that Kier, and I know you ain't a bad guy, and I know I'm being a tad tetchy, but you gotta see how wandering into a heated thread and dispensing new-age sound-bites of sickly-sweet wisdom to people who are considerably older and almost certainly wiser than you is going to sound a little patronising, savvy?
ai, well if your tetchy im guessing there's something more to it than this thread, so no worries and that isn't new age, i think it comes from a chienese proberb, but i won't be pedantic and you probably are wiser than me, but you'll have to put up with my crap points...just ignore them if they bug you. i had read this post, so i haven't wondered into this
I remember my days working in the canteen at Wessex Foods, a meat processing site with some fondness. Walking to work in the mornings, watching the winged rats of the sky circling and swooping into the tanks where the offal was dumped into. Oh the smell! Nothing more embracing on a cold winters day.
I work next to a glue factory... oh my! I loves the pungent aroma as I skip into work of a morning.... sets me up for the day it does especially seeing the odd cow escape into our carpark and be hauled off for a quick death... thank feck for cows or my post it notes wouldnt stick I'm sure they died happy knowing there short lives were put to good use And all they ever did to us was look cute and munch grass.... Love Clairexxx p.s. Iago? are you making it to Beautiful days?
ok - some hints for making veggie life a little easier..... asdas own brand fake meat products are yum. i can never be arsed with all the veggie cook books and stuff coz i am very very lazy, so i just stick to simple meals with the substitutes instead of the real thing. egg, fake bacon and mushroom sandwiches rule on a sunday morning when you have a galeforce hangover and need a cure. sausage, chips and beans are just as good when they are fake sausages. anything pasta is good. sometimes i chop veggie hotdog sausages into soup and pour it over pasta. it only takes five minutes and causes minimal amounts of washing up, (told you i was lazy!) linda macartney pies with potatoes and mixed veg cause slightly more washing up, but is really tasty and healthy. i dunno if any of you guys have been watching that "you are what you eat" program with the doctor who comes and sorts out people on really unhealthy diets, but i've noticed that she puts alot of them onto near-veggie diets just as a means of getting them healthy again. i could put a million and one arguments up here for becoming veggie, but i wont coz preachy people do my head in. if you want to pm me for any ideas, support or whatever - feel free. peace and love stardust xxx
Dude...if you really want to eat meat, but care (rightly) about the well being of the animals you eat, buy the meat from small farms. There's a farm we visit once a year on holiday in Wales, and the farmer is so friendly, he takes us to see all the little piglets, and they are soo cute. And yeah, it is kinda sad to think you're going to be eating one of them, but at least you know what you're eating. And they pay more for a small abattoir, where they can be assured of the job being done correctly. Or go to small butchers where they know the farms and the farmers they get the meat off, and can tell you exactly where each piece of meat came from (works for my family). If you want to go veggie, then good luck to ya, but just so you know <<the way meat is produced in this country and the methods involved>> aren't necessarily evil and cruel
Has anyone here tried the Quorn Premiere at McDonalds? I have, and it's fucking awful. I'm usually a pacifist, but if I had the chance, I'd kick the **** who thought that it would be a good idea right up the arse, and throw them out of the nearest convenient window. The quorn premiere is shit. I hate it, and i don't know a single vegetarian who actually likes it. And the old vegetable deluxe at mcdonalds was quite nice, actually. One thin gI do hate is quorn. I'm ok with it if I make fajitas out of it, using a discovery fajita kit, and quorn tastes OK. Put enough spice with it, and you won't notice it tastes shite. As for good vegetarian food, get eurass over to marks & sparks. For £1.69 you can get a product called "12 falafel" Shove them in a pita with some humous, lettuce and whatever the fuck else you like in terms of salad, and you'll be eating a pita full of heaven. For barbecues, I have a really cool thing - Skewer bits of peppers, red onions, and mushrooms, marinate in olive oil, and grill them. They taste fucking gorgeous! I might hold my own veg BBQ for all my mates, although something tells me it won't be their bag!
Excellent fucking point! I forgot about M&S. Their veggie range is superb. They do these spicy chick pea filo parcels that are just divine, and they also do these cheesey sausage things that I can't remember the name of (you can tell those are good coz they're always sold out.....). Oh yeah, and holy shit, do they ever do a good veggie sandwich!
Today (Sunday) is day 4. I can manage 4 days without meat pretty easily, but when you're actually making a conscious effort you realise how much it's all around you. Thanks everyone.
