Meat without animals!?

Sounds great to me. I don't know where all the cows and chickens are going to go. The worst thing about the industry is the numbers in which these animals are slaughtered. It's repulsive and, dare I say, crazy.

So manufactured meat would be cool. And like, if some people want to keep a cow to milk and a chicken to eat its eggs here and there, okay. Just don't lock the things into cages by the tens of thousands. I don't think you can argue that that is necessary.

 

Just eat less meat, but fake meat...? that's too unnatural...

 

Ask yourself this question: Do I want to eat something that was grown in a laboratory, with chemicals?

If you answer yes, you'd probably eat margarine too.


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My first concern would be the health effects of this GMO meat. We're seeing that already.
The other effect of a technology like this would be that it would make us far more dependent on specialists (genetic scientists) and increase centralization of food production.

 

And it's creepy.

 

Im vegan and this idea is fucked up
But i mean if its a choice between the mass production and farming madness we have now or this then id be all for people shoving bits of flesh grown in a lab down their throats
What id advise however is they did neither and either bought responsibly or didnt eat it full stop!
Of course "buying responsibly" would eventually leave a bit of a conundrum, as more and more people would be wanting meat from local organic free rabnge farms etc and those farms would expand and begin mass producing to meet the demand, so ultimately, not meaning to sound like a bore, but youre better off not touching the stuff, for a multitude of reasons
Unfortunately that would never happen either, so test tubes it is

 

But isn't "buying responsibly" a contradiction? Capitalism leaves us inherently powerless in all aspects of our lives, but most notably in terms of food security. Something like this would remove us even further from the source of life, and sever completely the complex relationship between predator and prey. As if it were not enough damaged already by industrial agriculture. Don't get me wrong, I feel the same way about my relationship with plant foods. Capitalism- and more generally, civilization- has followed a consistent pattern: More control, more centralization, more dependent on specialists and experts, more mediation by the machine. It seems many of you are perfectly willing to march lock-step into a future where non-human life forms have no independent existence at all.

 

Stop the destruction of farmland and you won't have the problem.

 

There was conflict, to be sure, but to say there was war would be a gross exaggeration. War as we understand it today requires a degree of social complexity and hierarchy that simply did not exist before domestication and agriculture. Nor was it necessary. Despite what you may have learned in history class, modern archaeology is revealing that paleolithic life was far more egalitarian than the "nasty, brutish and short" picture that civilizations apologists like to paint.

 

That was kind of my point

 

I'm sorry, don't get me wrong- I wasn't trying to contradict you or anything, I just think that the fact that people are even considering this is another sign of the deepening crisis we're in... And I think if the people here are really concerned about the welfare of animals or the health of the planet, they should be very critical of this.

 

Completely, its just common sense really. But really, who would be foolish enough to rather stick genetically engineered flesh in their mouths than just forget about meat and live without it...oh, actually...

 

I wonder what he cost and supplies demand will be
and if there will be any chemicals in it.
if vegetarians can manage without meat, why spend all of this money?
I'll stick with my black beans.

 

Your right, I absolutely would rather give up meat than eat something like that. I just don't think that's the solution either- the landbase where I live now simply could not support a vegan lifestyle without industrial agriculture, which is obviously not sustainable. And apparently what we think of as common sense is not nearly common enough, as some people seem to think this is a great idea.

I'm sure it will be touted as the solution to world hunger, poverty, and blah blah blah. As for chemicals, I would look to the gentech already in existence, which is wreaking havoc on our bodies and the planet.

 

I hear people saying they don't eat meat because it is wasteful inefficient, and unfair to most of the hungry people in the world. What you may not know is there is more than enough food grown every year to feed everybody in the world many many times over. Political and Economic pressures are what cause people to starve not the lack of food. Many people here claim eating meat is wrong. Eating meat is natural. What is not natural is growing meat (? what is the term for this) in a lab. Also most of you seem to feel us people who do eat meat are immoral because we put ourselves before animals. I do in fact view myself as better than an animal (in certain ways) and I view them as better in other ways. This does not mean I disrespect them or am not grateful for the sustenance and pleasures they provide my life with (I also STRONGLY believe any creature man or beast deserves a quick painless and dignified death). You are in fact hypocrites because you do make distinctions about what is okay to eat and what is not . So it is safe to assume you put the life of a Cow, pig, or chicken above that of a squash, corn, or the weed you smoke.

You cannot live without other organisms dying. It is a simple fact of life you are going to have to learn to live with. So why not enjoy a steak, it is one of the best ways to enjoy the beauties of nature, its sights sounds smells and tastes. Enjoy your life to the fullest. Your activism by not eating meat is ineffective, so why not instead put this energy towards bettering the treatment of animals at farms processing plants ecet. In order to be able to enjoy that animals bounty with a clear mind and heart? The meat isn't the problem, the system and peoples blatant disrespect for animals is.

Another thought:

The domesticated plants and animals you may or may not eat today are not natural occurances (by most of your standards) and did not exist the way you know them today 10,000 years ago. They are genetic inventions of man via selective breeding. They fill no other ecological role but to feed man. Most domesticated animals and plants as you know them today would fill no ecological niche if released and would go extinct unbelievably quickly. Therefore to release them would be inhumane and irresponsible. A great example of this is corn. I read a study that suggested corn would go extinct within 5 years if mans demand for it ceased.

 

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