Meat is murder

I'm vegan between meals.

 

Don't swat flies and don't eat plants. They have lives as well.

Just eat rocks. Oh wait, they have living bacteria on them.

Every time you shower you commit genocide

Don't focus on the killing, rather the pain that is in the whole equation.

 

Chickens...

Wait until you are well settled and have things in hand before getting into rabbits. Either you have to have them in cages, or you have to have a pen made that has fencing going as deep into the ground as you can get it... at LEAST 6 feet...

If one freakin rabbit rabbit escapes (while pregnant or with a male) you will have nothing but rabbit holes and tunnels EVERYWHERE...

 

Damn and I just had a big fat bacon cheese burger

 

Meat is murder


yeah shes possibly the hottest girl on here... :devil:

 

my rabbit plan includes indoor cages, an indoor run and an outdoor run with either a solid bottom or a cage bottom with dirt over it, so they can dig but not escape. chickens probably are better, we eat a lot of eggs, and sans rooster i wouldnt have to worry about population control, or mishaps.

now, can you sell me on a breed? look at me, premeditating....

 

plus, since you have kids avoid rabbits, kids are suckers for cute animals and rabbits are cute as hell, chickens on the other hand are ugly motherfuckers

 

actually, we have already talked about where food comes from, and the other day he started talking about killing rabbits in the grocery store. i had to explain to him that they dont kill the animals there, and that that grocery store doesnt have rabbits. i admit that he might be a little weirded out/ resistant when the actual process happens, but hes a pretty bright kid. might be forced to homeschool if i cant teach him to be tactful though.

 

Do you want meat, eggs, or a long term flock that supplies both?

 

well, ultimately i want a long term flock for both. but i might start with a harder-to-kill bird for practice, or start learning with just hens and add a rooster once i get the basics down.

 

fyi that wouldnt help, i was home schooled through middle school, and i ended up a mental 6th grader in 9th grade when i went back to regular school, and i still havent forgiven my parents and i still resent them for making me a freak for the first two years of high school. home schooling is seriously the worst thing you can do for your kids. sure maybe he might academically be a bit better off, but it seriously retards social growth and he will likely for a long time be clueless how to interact with people, if he is smart he will figure out tact on his own

 

Then just go for a dual purpose...

Your local store is a better source of exactly which breed you want.

We have egg layers, duals and meat birds... the egg layers and duals are the start of our permanent flock...

We will always end up ordering meat hens though... they can't really be called birds anymore... walking packages of meat... If you give them all the food they want, they will grow so fast their heart can explode... seriously...

If you keep an eye on them though, they are just amazing things... the one we did for our holiday dinner wouldn't fit in our roast pan (normal oven size) without cutting the legs down... most turkey's you buy in the store are smaller then this thing was... and we still have 5 more of them on the go right now.

 

Oh, and as for kids... my ten year old daughter helped kill and clean the one we had for the holidays, and she thinks it was the best chicken she ever ate.

 

there is minimal hope for my kid to fit in, and frankly i dont know that i want him to. schools suck, and they suck harder every year. the system is flawed. its not that i want him to have better education even, just rounded, balanced, not to a test, not without the ability to express yourself, or question teachers motives. you are on the east coast, the taxes are higher, the schools are better, there are more opportunities for advanced curricula, u used to go to school in NY. then i moved out here and there werent even advanced classes to choose from. no longer a wood/metal shop. i used to be in the second of three rows of clarinets, suddenly i was one of maybe 8-10, total. the only decent schools are the ones in yuppie rich neighborhoods, and not only can we not afford to live there, the kids in those schools are spoiled rotten, and dont even appreciate the learning they are privileged enough to receive. i dont know what your parents motives were, and im sorry that you suffered in that way, but remember too, that schools have been going downhill, and homework is destroying parent-child relationships. my brother is your age, and even in that 3 year difference, i could see that he was offered less than i was, that the school came down progressively harder on him, for pressing his butt up against the rules, but not overstepping them. he wielded the code of conduct like a fiery sword.

 

Honestly schools aren't that bad, kids just have no desire to learn.

 

Thanks for the tips i may have to pick your brain again after we move to some real property. i kinda feel motivated to declutter for that move, whenever it may happen

 

um. I thought snipes weren't real?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Snipe

The Common Snipe (Gallinago gallinago) is a small, stocky wader native to the Old World. The breeding habitat is marshes, bogs, tundra and wet meadows throughout northern Europe and northern Asia. It is migratory, with European birds wintering in southern and western Europe and Africa (south to the Equator), and Asian migrants moving to tropical southern Asia.

as for what you were thinking;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_hunt

A snipe hunt, a form of wild-goose chase that is also known as a fool's errand, is a type of practical joke that involves experienced people making fun of credulous newcomers by giving them an impossible or imaginary task. The origin of the term is a practical joke where inexperienced campers are told about a bird or animal called the snipe as well as a usually preposterous method of catching it, such as running around the woods carrying a bag or making strange noises such as banging rocks together. Incidentally, the snipe (a family of shorebirds) is difficult to catch for experienced hunters, so much so that the word "sniper" is derived from it to refer to anyone skilled enough to shoot one.[1]

 

basically. ill admit some of the shit the ppl in grades below me had to do after i graduated, i was glad not to be a year younger, cause if i was i likely wouldnt have graduated. and ive always been smart, but i skated by on the most mediocre grades cuz i was lazy and didnt want to do busy work for the sake of doing busy work, when i already learned the material. but as for all of my classmates. boy they were fucking hopeless, kids dont want to learn, they just want to do only things that they want to do

 

ah hah...mystery solved. thanks tom!