Mass Shooting In San Bernadino, California

I didn't see any of that going on.

 

This couple was prepared. They had enough stuff for another attack had they not been caught.


The suspects fired 65 to 75 rifle rounds inside the center, leaving behind four spent high-capacity magazines. Cornered after a chase, “the suspects are believed to have fired 76 rifle rounds at the officers,”

The suspects were armed with two .223-caliber assault rifles and two 9-millimeter semiautomatic pistols, and they left behind at the service center an explosive that did not detonate, made of three pipe bombs,

In a rented Ford Expedition with Utah plates, he said, the couple had 1,400 rounds for the rifles and 200 for the handguns with them at the time of the shootout. And at the home where they apparently lived in the nearby city of Redlands, officers found more than 2,500 rounds for the assault rifles, more than 2,000 for the pistols, several hundred rounds for a .22-caliber rifle, and 12 pipe bombs. There were also supplies for making more of them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&region=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&moduleDetail=undefined&pgtype=Multimedia

 

i think they actually had other plans but he got so pissed off at that meeting/party that he blew his load early

 

Victims:

Shannon Johnson, 45, Los Angeles (DOB: 03/06/70)
Bennetta Bet-Badal, 46, Rialto (DOB: 03/08/69)
Aurora Godoy, 26, San Jacinto (DOB: 02/01/89)
Isaac Amanios, 60, Fontana (DOB: 06/29/55)
Larry Kaufman, 42, Rialto (DOB: 08/12/73)
Harry Bowman, 46, Upland (DOB: 06/08/69)
Yvette Velasco, 27, Fontana (DOB: 04/03/88)
Sierra Clayborn, 27, Moreno Valley (DOB: 06/15/88)
Robert Adams, 40, Yucaipa (DOB: 05/02/75)
Nicholas Thalasinos, 52, Colton (DOB: 10/14/63)
Tin Nguyen, 31, Santa Ana (DOB: 04/06/84)
Juan Espinoza, 50, Highland (DOB: 06/24/65)
Damian Meins, 58, Riverside (DOB: 02/02/57)
Michael Wetzel, 37, Lake Arrowhead (DOB: 04/29/78)


http://local.nixle.com/alert/5541309/

 

May they RIP

That Michael Wetzel had 6 kids. I think it was him I read about.

 

They aren't that big of deal really, it's just when they are outfitted like a military weapon, to me anyway, it brings into question the mindset of the person who wants that kind of thing.

Large capacity magazines aside, this is what the pro-gun lobby is always screaming about

 

LOL, WTF?

 

I haven't heard anything about a motive for the shooting, or anything about what group was in the conference center.

Apparently, any group in state government would be able to use it.

At least one of the shooting victims was a food safety inspector.

Now what would be fucked up would be if they were knocking out food safety inspectors because they were also planning to tamper with the food supply.

 

Do some more reading.

 

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/HT_guns_bc_151203_12x5_1600.jpg


http://abcnews.go.com/US/san-bernardino-shooters-arsenal-detailed-injury-count-increases/story?id=35551325

 

The guns.



This image, released by the San Bernardino County Sheriff's office, shows some weapons and ammunition that were carried by the suspects in Wednesday's shooting.

San Bernardino County Sheriff http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/12/03/458277103/san-bernardino-shootings-what-we-know-one-day-after

 

Off topic: NRA says you need those to hunt deer

 

Yes he is really trying to advance his gun agenda!!!

Its really sad ppl have to suffer

 

Nothing that I've seen so far fundamentally changes anything I said in my previous post, but may serve to confirm some of it.

The San Bernardino Department of Public Health had rented the space for a holiday party. Farook had worked there for 5 years as an environmental inspector.

Motive could have simply been work place grudge or a broader terror motive.

 

They dropped off their kid with the grandparents though, apparently claiming they had medical appointments. Sounds like they at least were planning something for that day.

 

[SIZE=10pt]The most disturbing aspect of this is not the guns but the pipe bomb set to be triggered by a remote detonator to take out the first responders. Fortunately they were either out of range or there was a malfunction.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=10pt]Hotwater[/SIZE]

 

That is exactly what I think. I think they had something much bigger planned, too, but sounds like something set him off at the party and like you said he blew....

 

Not to open a new front on the whole gun debate but.....an AR with .223 rounds isn't as scary as it looks (but obviously it's powerful enough to kill...if you hit someone enough times or just perfectly). It's barely bigger than a regular .22 cal....which isn't very big. But when some people see that style of gun.....it just looks more dangerous than the much more timid looking versions of the exact same gun.

But I say that, in part, because when I heard what they were shooting I wondered why they chose those weapons. They could have been firing larger rounds which would be much more lethal...for cheaper. Why go in there with almost the smallest gun they could have?

Edit to say.....they had to know what they had. You don't stockpile that much ammo without knowing a few things about ammo.....even knowing by accident.