Masonic Symbols?

Just for the record, I hate reality TV...
I dont even thinks its a "secret"conspiracy though, its really fucking open. trying to make it a subversive thing seems silly to me. People in power openly make it stay that way.

 

You don't have a problem that this is being done in secret by the people who write the policy for the government you live under? Most concerned individuals would have a problem with this, especially when they have studied the agenda and the nature of those behind it.

 

Well, it's "secret" when most people are unaware of the agenda. Most people see the corruption and they see something is truly amiss. They know something isn't right. But they don't have a clue what is behind it. They see the president as holding the ultimate position of power when he is nothing more than a puppet carrying out the orders of those behind the scenes. And how can you say it's not subversive, unless you don't understand it? I have been studying this for years. I have read the plans of these people and studied these people. I know what their agenda is and it is absolutely subversive. I am talking about a global version of Nazi Germany, only worse. We're going to see it unfold within our lifetimes.

 

I HATE the Mason's, yet I have a masonic ring. I tell people I threw it off the pier but I was actually too afraid to and that damn thing kinda haunts me. That Discovery show on them freaked me the fuck out. I don't know anything about them though other than what I was fed 'a charitable organization. Like those non-profits you like. We help kids with cancer too'. I shit you not...we help kids with cancer.

 

Ok, walmart does not run the world, but do you know where all the board members spend their vacations? shit man, YES the rich are staying rich, but I am not scared of that. just note, mr. "infiltrated Bohemian Grove" didnt leave with one contact. Just a rightious outrage that people do stuff he doesnt understand.
Yes, I dont have a problem people taking on responsibility I dont want

 

Who said Walmart runs the world? Certainly they serve a major role in destroying what's left of this country, but this agenda goes well above Walmart. I also doubt most of the board members are Grove members, except maybe the CEO, but I cannot confirm that. Walmart, despite being one of the biggest corporations in the world, is still quite low on the totem pole.

Your last sentence is very telling, and it's this all-too-prevalent mentality that has gotten us into the trouble we're in.

 

so if I care, rich people will stop trying to maintain their wealth?

 

If enough people cared, they could do something to stop these people from forcing their will over the people of this planet. However, most people don't care, let alone have a clue how the system they're living under works. As long as most people have all the luxuries of modern living, they cannot be bothered with the facts. When people do wake up and realize what's happening, when the rug is finally swept from under them, it will be too late.

 

you know the thing is, i don't think the masons is actually an evil orginasation.
in the same way the the Swastika isn't actually an evil symbol, it just became that after the fucking Nazis used it.
they go way back you know, and i think the rich and (at sometime less) powerful elite started dabelling with these rituals and forces and found a whole new realm to extort.
but they were once seekers of the truth & light just like you and me...
And they went underground because of the forces in power. how things have changed..

The thing is i want Peace, and Harmony in diversity. and we are One world, and i wish more people would see that...
But Globalisation doesn't mean peace these days, it means Mc Donnalds, Shell, Texaco and all that westernization... we can do without!
Also I don't mind admitting that prince Willem-Alexander, heir to the Dutch throne, impressed me when right after 9/11 he called for a redistribution of wealth, believing a world less unfair would reduce violence, before he was apparently told to keep his royal mouth shut, because of course violent retaliation is far more effective than sharing more equally! Why give millions to the poor when the arms-industry is dying for profit?

 

Well, you need to understand that the redistribution of wealth is part of the agenda, and that the nobility are at the forefront of this agenda. They will tell the public one thing (ie. it's to stop violence, it's to create unity, etc.) when it's really about creating a certain global standardization where everyone will be equal in that they will all be peasants. The redistribution of wealth, which is more aptly referred to as socialism, is designed primarily to lower the living standard of wealthy western countries. It has nothing to do with helping the poor, which the Elite could not care less about and would actually like to do away with altogether. Poverty itself is a result of the artificial, inhumane money system that controls the world. These people always create the problem, then offer the "solutions" to these problems they created themselves. That's how they move their agenda forward.

Freemasonry might not be particularly "evil" as a whole, but it is certainly evil at its core. The people behind the creation of what we know today as Freemasonry were most certainly diabolical people. The overwhelming majority of Masons are good people who know really nothing about the organization they belong to, who are simply being used by the higher Freemasons to create a charitable facade that cannot be attacked by the public and those critical of Freemasonry.

 

wouldnt sweeping the rug out pretty much ruin the advantage these rich folks have over us poor folks? I mean, I guess this comes back to me asking you why satanic rituals are a bad thing.....do you believe there is a satan(or owl) that has the power to reward those that tormant the masses?

 

In times of crisis, people have been conditioned to turn to the government for solutions. Just look at what happened on 9/11, where people were literally begging for the government to protect them from the evil terrorist bogeymen. The government was more than happy to provide these solutions by passing legislation that we now know was written long before 9/11. The people running the show know the human psyche. They know how people react to certain events and how this can be used to their benefit. To bring about a new system, you must destroy the old. This is exactly what we are seeing happen right now.

And I never said these people were "satanic" or practiced "satanic rituals." However, they are most certainly evil in their intent, and this is obvious once you have studied these people and their agenda, which they do make known for people willing to dig a little deeper. There is no theorizing to be done, because they have made it clear what their plans are, which is a completely controlled society where all individuality and free thought will eventually be eliminated except for those running it.

When George Orwell wrote 1984, he wasn't merely predicting the future. He knew the agenda because he was part of some of the same groups who are behind this agenda today, which, might I add is incredibly old.

 

Ok, I will bite, what is the time frame for keeping us all from thinking. Does this diobolical plan involve hip hop in any way?

 

when it comes down to it, i think the only way to stop this sadistic, orwellian fantasy is to hit them where it hurts. use all their technology against them. mass electronic-finanical chaos(hacking). think about what would happen if you could crash the stock market. every countries stock market.

EMP's.

i saw on a discovery chanel show future weapons that they were going to replace the hummer with some beastly machine. the thing is, without electricity, it would be a heavily armored coffin. or hell, pull an escape from LA and pull the power on the world.

i wouldnt mind the rennisance area. good literature.

 

its only as matter of time, I wanted to get into the data storage racket. if you just shielded a large space dedicated for servers, and save everything you could, you'd make a mint after the fall of man

 

I cannot lay out the entire time frame with any degree of certainty. It's hard to say how far down the road the brain chip will be, but they can easily move their agenda ahead greatly simply by creating enough chaos. What I will say is that we will be living in a full-blown fascist dictatorship within the next five to ten years. I am absolutely certain of this. We are already starting to see this emerge when we witness the amount of never before seen power in the hands of the Executive Branch, and when we look at some of the legislation that's being passed, such as the Military Commissions Act. Couple this with the ever-increasing police and surveillance state we are seeing emerge, along with the building of massive FEMA detention facilities, and you can start to put the pieces together.

 

this never before seen power was granted to win wwII, both you and I have never known anything but. Ike even warned us about it.

 

Well, the collapse of the stock market would only enable them since it would provide the perfect pretext to offer their pre-planned solution. Besides, they control the world economy as it is. They own the banks and print the money out of nothing. They control all credit. I am referring to the super-Elite, not your average politician, which for the most part are willing dupes. As it is, this agenda will coincide with a worldwide economic collapse, which will be planned. Economic collapse will in fact be the exact catalyst for ushering in this new system.

 

he is talking illuminati pal, not your run of the mill userper

 

This is partially true, but it's still nowhere close to what we are seeing today when you consider other factors.

And yes, Ike warned about the Military-Industrial Complex, and his warning has proven to be a valid one.