Mark of the beast: it's here

You are aware that this paticular chip isn't going in anyone's hand or forehead, like your prophecy in the bible states.

And please don't assume I am a proponent of this chip just because I don't think it's the mark of the beast...

 

Is that what Manson was trying to do with the swastika in the forehead?

 

Interestingly enough.... at first scientists believed there was a discrepency in the Bible when they saw the impression of the nails in the wrists of Jesus's hands. Critics have stated for years that if Jesus was nailed to the palm of his hands, the weight of the body would have torn his hands from the nails. Upon checking the original Greek text, the found that the word, "Cheir", covered the entire hand area, including the wrist and the forearm. Currently, the implant chips are being placed in the forearm.

 

Raving Sultan knows the score. Please all americans out there don't vote for him again. and some how find away to stop him cheating his way back in again.

 

Before you guys go off on dispensationalist theories, you might look into preterism and partial preterism. Until the 1800s, the preterists were dominant. In a nutshell, the preterists believe that the Great Tribulation has already happened (in 70 A.D.) I am not saying that they are right, but the preterists have some VERY good arguments. I think that I am going to end up being a partial preterist (I have been a dispensationalist for years). Partial preterists believe that some things (like the Great Triublation) have occurred already while others (like the Great Judgment) have not. For more information, you guys might look for documentation on preterism. Just keep an open mind and, more importantly, an eye for what is scriptural and what is not. Read up on hermeneutics too.

 

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Awesome!!!

I got one a few days ago that said, "you can resist anything except temptation".

Actually, that was kind of creepy.

 

I am quite sure there are many non-christians who would refuse to have an implant like that. I know I would.

 

As would I, and I am not a christian.

 

I just think this is another example of how the bible is abused to be anti science and technology.

 

Yeah, like I said, my church used to say that things like social security and credit cards were the mark of the beast. Then they totally freaked out when those bar-code tattoo's got popular.

But I lack more trust in big brother at the moment than I do any god, that's why I would refuse some chip implant, and would never have one on my child. I figure, if I'm worried about someone taking my kid I'll watch her. That's what my parents did for me, and it seems to have worked.

 

too right, i despise the whole safety thing. well never be able to experience the freedom our parents did in the 60s and 70s because of all this safety bullshit. id not let anyone put that thing in me. its a great idea for money and to a lesser extend, medical details and stuff, but its not a great idea at all as a tracking device and any person who would put that in their child would have to be 100% conservative or something

with that stuff about this happening in AD 70, ill look it up, but i find it hard to beleive since the NT (at least revelations!) wasnt meant to have been written yet (was it? no, tell me, was it? oh ill jsut look it up)

 

The chips are being promoted in certain public schools as of lately. In July, a primary school in Japan decided to use RFID chips to track their children. They are being placed in children's schoolbags, name tags or clothing.

 

The bad things about these chips, is that one day they will try to make them the most convienient way of purchasing/traveling. Forcing conventional methods near obsolete.

*They also use these chips in spec ops troops for tracking.

Done a little bit of researching on these chips, and whatever they decide to use in these to power them make cause radiation poisoning. (Long term tests havn't been done yet)

Revelation mentions that people recieving these chips will get boils, and symptoms simular to lepracy. (Same symtoms as radiation poisoning.)

 

Yeah, I mentioned that a few pages back, more specifically about the lithium

 

Thats a scary thought..I remember hearing somethig about it on 20/20 a few years ago...I thought about it last night too actually..and for the people who say the wouldnt take the chip...would you still refuse if you were forced into exile where you couldt buy thigs (food etc.) of have a job?? Its going to be extremely hard. Im not trying to dissuade anyone..i dont plan on taking any chip or barcode or aything else...but its not gonna be as easy as "Im not gonna take it..ill justcontinue with my life" Refusing the mark in the end, is refusing life as you know it.

 

Hehe it's not just you christians who would refuse the so called 'mark of the beast'... I sure as hell am not getting some damn chip implanted in me...

 

That is good to hear, Chaos, but it definitely won't be easy. Those who don't take the mark will not be able to make money, nor will they be able to purchase. Also, they will assume that you are a Christian since you refuse it, and they will persecute you.

 

That is all just a huge assumption...

There has been no indication as of yet that you will HAVE to have this chip to make money or spend money. In fact, since America is pretty big on it's civil liberties, I don't see anything like that happening anytime soon.

And since America and it's leaders generally claim to be christian, I doubt they will single out these non-chip users as christians for persecution.

However, my entire lack of trust in our gov't, especially our law-enforcement branches, would keep me from getting a chip. Has nothing to do with religion. And I think you would find that same answer from MANY people.