Marijuana Good? or Bad? for you?

i think i heard somewhere that a guy has died from tokin. butw hen they searched his appartment they found out that he had been smokin around a thousand joints on the same day.

 

yeah.....but then youv'e ALLWAYS been kind of a bitch.
just kidding! nevermind that. i just had to. dont take it seriously.

 

I'm not here to argue. I have Concrete PROOF it saved MY life last week.

Jennifer, check Angels "Kitchen Table" forum. I had a bit of a heart attack, last week. I dropped an aspirin, to help thin my blood, and smoked a bowl to expand my Capillary Arteries. I'm still here...

 

I hope your ok I will say a pray for you... do you have a link to the Kitchen Table forum?

 

I don't feel like gettin in another argument with all the hardcore stoners here, but All pot smokers should read this: "Adverse Effects of Cannabis" by Hall W, Solowij N published in The Lancet, 1998 (14(352):1611-6)

I'm sure its up on erowid somwhere... Pot is highly carcinogenic when compared to tobacco, but few ppl would ever smoke enough of it to cause a problem.

 

Yeah, but I mean, no one argued that it's not carcinogenic and it's bad for your lungs. Atleast you can eat and drink pot and still get high. Can't get a tobacco buzz from drinking and eating the stuff, that's for sure. Beyond that, like I'm sure you've heard before, because you get high pretty easily off of a joint, you smoke much less of the toxins than that of a cigarette smoker. If you were to do a cumulative test over a person's lifetime, you'd see that the smoker of tobacco takes in many more carcinogens and tar. I mean, the carcinogenic thing isn't really much of an argument against smoking pot.

 

Well, there's been a lot of research comparing marijuana smoke to tobacco smoke, and most have found that the two are nearly identical. Except for the arsenic, and all the other shit they have in cigarettes. Oh, not to mention the fiberglass they put in the filters to irritate your lungs, allowing for more nicotine absorbtion. I really don't think people realize that it's not the carcinogens in tobacco that cause such awful health effects. It's all the other chemicals they pump into the things.

I'm so sick of seeing tobacco and marijuana being compared; even mentioned in the same sentenced. A tobacco cigarette has so many foreign chemicals in it, that are purposefully put there, that are harmful to humans. Marijuana has constantly been shown to have minor effects on the lungs. No one's ever gotten lung cancer from it, either. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you. Pollution in L.A. is more tarous and carcinogenic than marijuana or cigarettes, but we don't see 400,000 people a year dying from it.

People need to stop comparing tobacco to anything else. Tobacco is like concentrated pollution in the form of a cigarette. All it does to you is completely bad. Comparing other things that are burned or smoked to it is not fair; and it's definitely not logical to compare marijuana to it. With all the research showing that it's not harmful to your lungs, that it's beneficial, why would you even think it was nearly as bad? (Could government propaganda be the answer, maybe?)

I'm not going to bring up the facts about the radioactive chemicals in tobacco, which have even been cited by the Surgeon General in 1990 to be the cause of 90% of tobacco-related lung cancer cases, but I am going to say that cigarettes are probably more harmful than any sort of drug. The reasons of this should be clear to everyone.

Also, for those who're citing the "4 times as much as tobacco" crap: That report was based on studies conducted with poor quality, NIDA-supplied, LEAVES. Not the buds of marijuana, the leaves. The buds only have 1/3 the amount of tar as tobacco.

Anyway, it's neither. I'd say it's really more neutral. There's a lot of cons to it, there's a lot of pros to it. I mean, no one can deny that when you start to smoke heavily, it does have some adverese effects. I don't smoke that heavily myself, always use water-bongs, and I've already noticed I'm slightly out-of-breathe when I run. I've noticed that my thinking process has changed slightly, making normal functionality a bit different, if not difficult. The thing you need to know about marijuana is a general rule of thumb: Nothing is good in excess. Marijuana is absolutely harmless in moderation, but if you use it excessively, you will have problems with it.

It is good for you. Not completely, but in a lot of ways. I'm sure if you're so apt to call other people ignorant you should already know this. I'm not going to cite all the things about medical marijuana, though. I'll use my friend as an example.

At first, I thought it was just some rare condition, but apparenlty my friend had his left lung sealed off with tar at the beginning of the bronchial passage-ways. Six months later, on his next doctor visit, it was gone. The doctor had no idea why, so he sent him to a lung speacialist thinking something was wrong. Apparently all the heavy marijuana smoking my friend had done had expanded the passage-ways, shifting the tar around, and actually clearing it out of his lung. So, he can actually breathe out of two lungs now, thanks to marijuana.

 

I think we can conclude that there's a chance of getting cancer when you smoke with tobacco, and that all the mental stuff (effect, addiction, etc.) differs per person... And the schizophrenia thing is actually true, it caused much debates and newspaper articles here in Holland, but it's not really something to worry about if it doesn't already run in your family. Other rumors about brain damage are never confirmed... and of course it can be used as a medicine to a number of diseases.


And for me, I can't wait until this month is over and get back to toking again... Today I realized that day is also my birthday

 

Floris, I asked how , neurologically, does the problem happen. Anyone can say "yes, it's true". I want to know by which means this 'scientist(s)' came to this conclusion.

 

That is exactly what I think but said in a much better way than I would have attempted. Weed does bring out what was originally there. I feel like I'm more myself when I'm stoned...which is why I pass it up sometimes, especially if I'm sad. If I'm happy, I just get happier, and since I'm shy, weed brings out the unshy side of me. If I'm sad, I get sadder...mad turns to madder, and so on. I'm just weird like that, I guess.

 

"and its good for arthuritus too" - Granny in Half Baked

 

But honestly, it's addicting for some people. One of the downer effects of weed is you become bored more easily and also more impatient. Thats how it is for me at least and I become a very iritable person. But I know some dudes who smoke every day and don't get the same downer effects. Honestly when you ask for info about marijuana at an addictive stand point your never going to get a 100% confirmed answer because it's different for everyone.

 

bump

 

wow this is like 5+ years old..


good bump jen.. and weed is definitely good :ssmokeit:

 

I was high, it's weird looking at my old threads, I was a different person then, we all were

 

Their have been so many studies good and bad effect of smoking pot. is it worse then cigs?

 

is it bad? i dont know because who knows what real info is released

is it worse than not smoking? fuck obviously, your inhaling carcinogens in the smoke so obviously youd probably be better off not smoking than smoking.

 

cigs are worse, but i say its good because a lot of people that smoke weed do so as opposed to take various other meds and chemicals that can be more harmful.

 

Like any other drug legal or not there will always be a percentage of ppl who will have adverse side effects be it through a mental or physical issue be it known or unknown and 9 times out of 10 there the ones who reach the morning paper coz bad news sells.
Short term I'd say not physic or mentally addictive or even that bad compared to others that are about on the street but long term ya cant expect to smoke weed every day for 10,15,20 years and not have some kinda price to pay be it physical or mental.

 

thats a really interesting syndrome.. charles bonnet. im gonna look it up!