Marijuana And The 2014 Elections

Discussion in 'Cannabis News' started by newo, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Oregon, Alaska and Washington D.C. are voting to legalize marijuana while Florida and Guam, a US territory, are voting for medical marijuana.

    If it passes in Oregon then the entire Pacific Northwest will have it legalized. In Alaska it could influence Canada to further decriminalize it. And while Washington D.C. is a small area it's still the nation's capitol, which would be very significant.

    If Florida approves medical marijuana it would make it the first state in the deep south to do so, and Guam could spread influence throughout the Pacific.

    We're making progress people!
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  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    The south or otherwise extremely republican areas are still years away from it but total legalization is coming.
  3. I gotta go register to vote.

    We got commercials on TV for legal weed now......
    Back in my day, D.A.R.E used to think you could overdose on 1 marijuana.

    Its gonna fund the cops too, pretty awesome if you ask me!
  4. ZenKarma

    ZenKarma Shuffling Realities Staff Member Super Moderator

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  5. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

    Some people think the conservatives who have a stranglehold on texas politics through gerrymandering will never do it - I think they're wrong.

    Texas cares about saving the children from drugs when it makes money for law enforcement and that sort of thing, but between the children and business, texas has a very clear anti-children pro-business lean - we used the children's medicaid money for corporate tax breaks.

    Right now we get federal money to militarize our cops to bust pot smokers - that will stop flowing as the fight goes federal, and massive amounts of money and economic stimulus will be flowing into neighboring states - the children will suddenly be forgotten, we won't worry about the children because we'll put aside a little bit of money for "red ribbon week" school drug prevention, and we'll start raking in the bucks.

    This depends on legalization being smooth, lucrative, and widespread. We've got to get all the momentum into weed that we can - we've got to make it over the hill, before it rolls backwards and crushes us (as has already happened once in the history of cannabis prohibition and the attempt to end it).

    Don't drink the "stoners against legalization" kool-aid, when people tell you to vote to stay a criminal, tell them to vote to go fuck themselves. Now is the time of political reckoning, not voting for an initiative like prop91 will not result in a better law later, it will result in the next proposition being even more conservative, and public opinion dying down as people get tired of the decades-long "almost there but never quite get there" bullshit. The general public who will be voting for us don't even really smoke pot, you've got to take what they'll give, and take it gladly. Arguing that legalization should be more liberal is fine and great and please do, but doing anything other than voting for it is blatantly stupid - don't spit in the eye of those giving us a hand up, you can't climb the rest of the way if you don't take the hand in the first place.

    When texas falls, the south will have fallen, and marijuana prohibition will have fallen - there will be no bringing it back.
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  6. ZenKarma

    ZenKarma Shuffling Realities Staff Member Super Moderator

    Great video RooRshack! Thanks for sharing that one!
  7. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    I remember when Arizona and New Hampshire had some of the strictest marijuana laws in the country, and now they both allow medical marijuana. I'm 60 now so I doubt I'll see full legalization in my lifetime, but I'm happy to be around to watch the change.
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  8. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

    If we can keep on the path we're on, you'll see it very soon.

    Basically, oregon has GOT to pass prop91 in 9 days.

    If they don't we'll press on, but if they do, it's a giant boon to legalization - a third state, in a seperate later election cycle, really is the stamp of approval and understanding that we need - the policitians are still blustering about the mistake, and how everyone will see - but it's been two fucking years, I'm still waiting to see - after two years of great success and another state saying "we want some of that", we'll be golden.

    Of course, winning there won't mean we should relax or stop trying so hard, but it will be a serious sign that this can happen really fast.

    If enough states legalize by ballot initiative, we could soon have a legislature legalizing, which would be wonderful - then they can't say it's a bunch of stupid voters who don't know what's good for them.
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  9. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    The results are in! It passed here in Oregon (woohoo!) and in Alaska and Washington DC! A clean sweep!

    Medical marijuana passed in Guam but failed in Florida. The south is going to be a tough nut to crack.

    4 out of 5 ain't bad at all! I'll smoke to that!
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  10. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Road trip!!! DC is easy driving distance for millions of people on the east coast who have never had access to legal weed before. This will put more pressure on surrounding states!
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  11. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe HipForums Supporter

    Nice! This is such an interesting mini-revolution. A major cultural shift form even a few years ago.
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  12. Oregon goes green hell yeah four plants a person
  13. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    it only failed to pass in Florida because of their stupid requirement that it must have 60% of the vote to pass rather than 50%. Stupid, stupid Florida.
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  14. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    This is good news.

    In Massachusetts and in several other states, legalization supporters have wisely decided to wait until next time, 2016, to put it on the ballot, because so many more young people will vote in a presidential election than in a mid-term.
  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

    Florida's proposal wasn't to legalize, but to allow medical marijuana. The problem is, that there's a ban in the state's constitution and that's why it needed 60% to pass. That's why I generally avoid voting for measures that have anything to do with altering the state constitution.
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  16. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical fucking crazy is it that they have a constitutional ban on weed...

    But even so, they did awesome, even if they missed the mark they showed great potential, if it was just a simple initiative instead of a constitutional amendment, that would have been a landslide - that's enough to swing any race over weed - southern politicians have got to be feeling that, and seriously considering which side of that 58% they want to be on.

    And next time, they'll have the extra 2%.

    As to the rest of what happened, I don't think I need to re-state how powelful it is, everyone gets it: we can and will do this thing, we're going the whole hog.
  17. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    I hope I'm not celebrating too soon. I just learned that because of DC's special legal status, congress can prevent the change that was approved by the voters. Since both houses have gone Republican... I'm not feeling optimistic today.
  18. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    ... and they did. :(
  19. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    They don't need no stinkin' voters. That's the worst. That is, to go against what citizens want and vote for, in such an anti-democratic manner. Nothing new from the usual suspects.

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