Make Way For The New Woodstock Revolution!

Fucking hell...You guys are like a bunch of Fundamental Christians waiting for the coming of Christ. If you guys think there's so much need for a new "Hippie" Revolution, then why hasn't it happened in the 30 years since the last one? You try and push this new Generation of Hippidom onto people, but you guys are only attempting to force a Revolution, rather than let it happen.

Revolution's are not planned.

 

LA Matthews, you usually have worthwhile things to say and I respect your opinions, but I think you're awfully negative when it comes to people wanting to change the world. There have to people who want change and are willing to work for it. If those people didn't exist, the world would be the exact same as it was 1000 years ago. We have enough freedom at least to hold our own opinions, and those opinions are what make revolutions possible. I agree, revolutions can't be planned...but with enough people being opened to the possibility and sharing the same mindset, there's no doubt it will happen. I don't think the 60's will happen again, but I do think that the next revolution will be a modernized version of it. More organized, because we're able to see the faults of the last one. We still have something to work toward, we have the power to take up where the 60's left off...It might be a success, it might be a failure, but trying has gotten us a lot farther in the past than sitting in the shadows denying that change is possible. And please don't bring my age into this. How long I've lived doesn't determine my maturity. I might be younger than you, but at least I have hope.

 

No, I won't judge your character on your age, because you've actually given a mature post, rather than a rant at why I'm so cynical. In my opinion I don't think a revolution will happen on the scale of the 60s. At the time it was shocking and a total taboo to want to be like the counter culture, and that's why it succeeded in global popularity.

Maybe it will happen again, but it won't be the same music/fashion, but it may be the same policies on some things. In my opinion, I don't think there's a need for a social revolution, and an uprising of Neo-Hippidom. There is only need for another Political Revolution (on the scale of the 60s). Perhaps I've misunderstood, but it seems like you guys want a revolution of music and ideas, but the thing is, the music and ideas have always been there since the 60s.

Hippidom has always been around since the 60s, it doesn't mean it's dead.

 

WoodstockChild never said it would be same. You'll be so blitzed you'll never find your way to the party anyway.

 

There's absolutely nothing original about her posts. I believe you can start a revolution based on the same principles, not necessarily the same acts (because most of it didn't have the intended effect, you have to try new things). So I agree with LA in that it has to be different to succeed. You can't run around the country tripping on acid and stoned, singing with your guitar and expect the outcome to be different than what already happened. I almost think Woodstock is in it, not because she feels strongly about the ideals and wants to fight for what's right, but because she wants an easy way to spend her life wasted. The most important thing about success is to actually believe in what you're fighting for. Woodstock, what are you truly fighting for? Now let's have a real revolution where people believe in more than just the drugs.

I'm not criticizing the idea...read my last post, I believe it can happen, I want it to happen...I'm just questioning Woodstock's motives.


And gardener- there's no need to personally attack someone just because they don't agree with you. That's a sure way to spread the words of peace and love...

 

The biggest drawback I see for the youth of today, is that you seem to be locked into the "reality show" mindset". You feel big when you cut others down. Doesn't matter if you agree with them, if it can make you look good. How can there ever be unity when you are trying your best to run the other guy down? It's your time and your style, thank god I was young when I was. I wouldn't want to be young today.

 

Are you saying I'm cutting people down? I wasn't cutting WoodstockChild down at all, like I said in my post, I'm just curious what her true motives are. You sit here telling others to be nice, yet you're able insult people solely because you disagree with them? Peace and love should extend its hands to ALL...not only those that are on its side.

 

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Seems like the youth of today aren't as stupid as you think, Gardener.

 

I wasn't cutting anyone in particular down. Just making an observation. Matthew's last message just solidifies my attitude. Have fun kids!

 

But arn't you yourself running people down on the fact that some people don't agree with your views? I find that slightly hypocritical.

 

I didn't read 45 pages of this thread, but got the gist of the conversation anyway. There is no going back to Woodstock, only forward to the concerns of the day. I believe there was a Woodstock 2 ,and there was much violence and chaos, and it was considered a failure. Of course , the ideals of the movement will always ring true with millions of people, as they are timeless.


I think that the next pertinent revolution in this century should and will be around environmental issues, and isn't that the most crucial issue facing us right now.? What else can we accomplish in this world if our planet is polluted and uninhabitable.?? The current non-compliance with the newest environmental standards, shows how resistant people can be to the most obvious necessity to "save our planet earth".

I would think that if everyone who admires the Woodstock mentality,(social change, protest, learning to live and work together, LOVE), put their energy into helping support important environmental legislation ,and produced meaningful books and music about ecological changes,( An Inconvenient Truth-a movie about people seeing and knowing what needs done, and looking the other way), then we could initiate radical change that would revolutionize the current laid back anti-pollution standards and attitudes, and we would be as demonstrative as the Hippies of the 60's.( I'm not going to take this anymore.!!!!!!!!!!)..

Greedy people, whose riches are based on polluting and raping the earth,don't want to hear the truth, it is too "inconvenient" to have to stop what they are doing (sacrificing the planet for their own financial success), and face the fact that they are destroying the planet.

Music festivals, flowers in your hair, LSD, Woodstock, set the groundwork for future generations of free, or original thinkers who could think outside the box, and then work whole heartedly to encourage social change in the present day, by whatever means that their goals could best be accomplished.
I hope the revolution can be peaceful , just many good people working together in a positive way to save the earth, before it's too late. That is a radical , revolutionary ideal, and one worth the effort to put into action.

 

The "have fun kids" is such a put down, and a condescending attitude toward pertinent adolescent contribution. You imply that you are just " out of here", when it comes to listening to others thoughts, insights, and opinions.

 

I did not interpret your post as a put down to WoodstockGirl, only an inquiry about real motives. Her idealism is dreamy, and somewhat unrealistic in this day and age. It does seem like a naive idea, to go hang out and play music, and wear flowers in our hair, and take acid, and give each other the peace sign all day. Those days are gone, and would probably be ineffective. Living with others communally is hard work, and making social changes is hard work. Peace and Love will never be outdated, but perhaps the nostalgia for Woodstock, could be replaced with a new ideal for social change for the improvement of life on this planet.

 

A.B.E.,

Are you telling Bbeccaaa and others that they should approach this in a serious manner, taking the experience of their elders into account?

Do you think they will listen any better than the Woodstock Generation did?

 

Hey if that sort of comment bothers you, I foresee hard times if you ever wish to revolt against the norm.

 

I agree. No doubt it was dreamy. She started out by saying how John Lennon would be standing right next to her when she changed the world. She's gonna need to stuff him and prop him up (and probably kick down some cash to Yoko).
I think that we need people like woodstock if change is going to happen. I doubt that any 1 person will get exactly the type of change that they hope for. But hopefully, the change will be a positive one none the less.

 

One of the points I'm trying to get across is to learn from the past...We have to think about the 60's like this-

In what way did they fail?
What's a new direction we can take to try and succeed?

You can't keep using the same old methods and expect society to take it seriously just because you decide to try. It's ignorant to think they will.

And Gardener - Most of the things you say are direct insults to LA Matthews and others who disagree with you. I love how for you it's just an observation, but for everyone else it's cutting others down.

 

'You guys make it sound like your planning a birthday party with clowns, balloons, and crepe paper. That's not what WoodStock was. It was the final gathering of a generation. You guys don't have the background to do anything right now but throw a wantabe type thing. What have you stood up for? What lines have you crossed? Time to become something before you plan a gathering, there's no one to gather at this point. You all have your own agendas. Unless you just plan to gather people for the music and fun. In which case it's not even going to come close. Is it a party you are after? you can all do that closer to home. Of course you could all text message each other.'

you are so freakin right!
every1 appears to have the right idea but i dont think they have their entire mind body and soul in it!! its not all about music an a big freakin party, its about changing peoples mind sets. and ppl have been repeating this over an over in this thread an no1 appears to b picking this up!

WHAT HAVE U DONE 2DAY 2 CHANGE THINGS?CHANGE PEOPLES MINDSETS??

smoking weed an playing peace music aint gona do that (though weed an da beatles is good shit, dont get me wrong). have u stood on your corner street with a placard and stated what u stand for? imagine the effect if every1 on this forum did that? people would join, a movement would start! or maybe play your music on street corner. do u buy clothes or make your own? do u support the use of cars or do u ride a bicycle? do u even recycle? or is that 2 oldschool 4 u?? are these simple ideas 2 boring?

start with the simple!!!

 

hey sorry earlier got the quote thing wrong hope i get it right this time!

I definately agree with da above! but a true revolution will be composed of many ideals not only environmenal revolution but also a spiritual one. plus i wholy agree with knowing wotz goin on around the world and behind the scenes, behind what da media media craps out!

so for a true revolution we need to recruit not only hippies but every1 else, maybe this will curb the infighting in this thread. dont make it a soley hippy revival come revolution but
instead a revolution of a all young minds dissatisfied with how we live this life, dissasfied with the wrongs, be they war or global warming

and yes drugs are fanatasitic but they are NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!
please read 'the ancient teachers of mankind' by Graham Hancock- Excellent book and will put into perspective da role psychadelics have to play in not only our history but OUR REVOLUTION!

Woodstock child, you still have'nt shared wot your motives are besides peace for your revolution??