Make Way For The New Woodstock Revolution!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by WoodstockChild, May 11, 2006.

  1. Politics are awesome

    Politics are awesome Politics suck

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    Nobody ever did anything good for society while stoned. :rolleyes:
     
  2. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    U.S. Grant won the Civil War when drunk.
    Throughout his adult life, Churchill was never drunk, but he was never completely sober.

    Some of the people who worked on original Woodstock were stoned when they worked on it. Similarly, some of the protesters in Chicago '68 were stoned.

    On a different level, I don't think that anyone knows for sure how high some musicians are when they write powerful music. (If music isn't good for society, why did S. Africa ban "We shall overcome.")

    Since people advocated legalizing drug use, rather than advocating using drugs, I would ask is "not doing good for society" a sufficiant reason to throw people in prison for smoking disapproved plants? Or injesting the disapproved chemicals?
     
  3. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    the guy who first had the idea of a computer got it during a shroom or mescanline trip, i forgot which. and look at media player, that swirly shit was a very good idea and i bet that guy was stoned as shit
     
  4. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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    Yes. I'm all fired up about my theory that the government doesn't want us to become enlightened, they're most efficient way of battling the counterculture, which they think poses a threat to society. Sick.
     
  5. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    well it does pose a threat to society. things like this idea for revolution and shit are plans to change modern society for what we feel would be better. the govt sees modern society right now as best cause it gets them the most money. therefore things like this pose a threat to their money
     
  6. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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  7. YEM36313

    YEM36313 Member

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    yeah...the banning of drugs is just another way to keep people down...you know, a way to yet again tell people NOT to think for themselves, but to tell them that "they" know better.

    I have had some really enlightened moments on mushrooms. I always feel very spiritiually connected when i am tripping.

    Now that being said, i think people DO abuse drugs. But its all an issue of amounts. Too much IS too much. There is a time and place for everything. Concerts are definately a time and place to be on mushrooms, lsd, marijuanna, etc. These are safe havens designed to help you reach a peak. Designed to expand your mind. This is true at least in my opinion.

    I think that instead of oppressing peoples urges to want to explore their minds, that we should be educating them on ways to safely do this. We should be having more discussion and less decision. People are exploratory by nature. One person can not truly govern another, and so we must be able to make educated and wise decisions. People should not use drugs as an escape. They should not use them just because. But when things get bad, and when things are unclear, people are turning to drugs because our doors of communication have closed.

    I think that people have got to try things in order to learn about them. I would never say i didn;t like a food simply because i hadn't tried it...right?
     
  8. rainbowedskylover

    rainbowedskylover Senior Member

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    congratulations with your excellent post!! :D
     
  9. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    A revoluton can't only be a "hippie only" revolution

    you need to apeal to all socialy/psycially opressed peoples

    "Far between sundown's finish an' midnight's broken toll
    We ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing
    As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds
    Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing
    Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight
    Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight
    An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    In the city's melted furnace, unexpectedly we watched
    With faces hidden while the walls were tightening
    As the echo of the wedding bells before the blowin' rain
    Dissolved into the bells of the lightning
    Tolling for the rebel, tolling for the rake
    Tolling for the luckless, the abandoned an' forsaked
    Tolling for the outcast, burnin' constantly at stake
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Through the mad mystic hammering of the wild ripping hail
    The sky cracked its poems in naked wonder
    That the clinging of the church bells blew far into the breeze
    Leaving only bells of lightning and its thunder
    Striking for the gentle, striking for the kind
    Striking for the guardians and protectors of the mind
    An' the unpawned painter behind beyond his rightful time
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Through the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales
    For the disrobed faceless forms of no position
    Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts
    All down in taken-for-granted situations
    Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute
    Tolling for the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute
    For the misdemeanor outlaw, chased an' cheated by pursuit
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Even though a cloud's white curtain in a far-off corner flashed
    An' the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting
    Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones
    Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting
    Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail
    For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale
    An' for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Starry-eyed an' laughing as I recall when we were caught
    Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended
    As we listened one last time an' we watched with one last look
    Spellbound an' swallowed 'til the tolling ended
    Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed
    For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse
    An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing."- Bob Dylan, Chimes of Freedom

    "Well-Being For All"- Peter Kropotkin
     
  10. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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    Yes. The thing with the government on the issue of drugs is we're told what we believe, not asked. It's really sad.
     
  11. YEM36313

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    well of course a revolution wouldn't just be hippies. it would be everyone. But everyone needs a leader. Everyone needs someone or something to get the thing started.

    And who doesn't love music? Who doesn't deep down want to be a hippie????
    You go to a phil lesh concert or something similar and you'll find a lot of teenagers there trying to fit in and trying to get into the hippie community. You even see normal people there who really dig the community. People love hippies, even if they just love to hate them... heheh

    But i think that once people get into whatever it is they are into, then you set the ball into motion and things begin to change people begin to get ideas, and that brings fourth change and revolution...it only takes a few.
     
  12. Le Blanc Rabbit Col.

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    Nice idea. fight the corporate opression. creating your own counter culture is awesome. If you make it with the 'summer of sound bring it to aotearoa and cum drop sum acid with the freaks from down under.. Join white Rabbit collective.
     
  13. rainbowedskylover

    rainbowedskylover Senior Member

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    what is more important to you? to get something going which will make the people more free, more consious more social and kind to eachother and happier and make this world a better place, whatever it might be.
    or realising the ultimate dream of every young sixties-counterculture 'geek', which is to attend such a notorious festivals such as woodstock or fillmore-east.
     
  14. rubbersoul

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    It's a great idea, you have all my support too!!! But remember that before change the world, you must change yourself and be in peace with all the people that live near you, than all the world will live in peace!! I hope that day come soon.

    Peace&love
     
  15. YEM36313

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    i think that it is way more important to let people be enlightened and to seek truth and to stop the decay of mankind through love and kindness and taking care of eachother. Dont you???????????

    If we do not learn to be more tolerant and to try and understand one another than we will never evolve into anything more than what we are today...
    People have to understand that we are a human race and that we are all in this together, whether we like it or not, and we have to get together, be together, and stay together in order to further and better ourselves. You can not stand alone...that is why humans form relationships and friendships. this is why love exists...to help us be better, but together, not alone...
     
  16. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    you dont need a specific event to have a revolution. you need a revolution of the mind. not some festival which will end in disaster just like the last too woodstocks.
     
  17. YEM36313

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    well with that attitude, mr. m! (just kidding)

    Yeah, you're true, you definately need a revolution of the mind. But you also need events and happenings to stimulate that change. not one-- many. That is the nature of the beast
     
  18. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    but the events themselves wont create the revolution. you first must instill the ideals into peoples minds before you go on with organizing events. otherwise people will just think its a festival for fun and music. if a festival ever did happen, to help promote your ideas, you should get famous public speakers who share your ideals. that way, people who did come just for the music will get to hear your point and possibly join your cause
     
  19. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    this is all us hippies do. we are such lazy bitches, we make all these great ideas and have all these plans to change the world. but none of us do it.:p

    i would actually organize something, but im kinda tied down with parental rules and shit. thatll change once im out of the house. then i actually will attempt to create that TV station we talked about
     
  20. YEM36313

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    well, that is not true. I do things, and other people do too. :) but we have to have more people doing more things that will get people to actually USE their brains!

    The thing about it is that when the 60s and 70s were in full swing, there were protests and love-ins and human be-ins, etc. and all of that was very stimulating and political and brought about a lot of thought and so fourth...but then other things happened...like, kent state and mase being forcably PUT into non-violent protesters eyes, etc.
    incidences with police forces became more frequent, and awareness grew about protests and then people at home watching their televisions got ideas too... maybe they went the other way and decided that they were against what someone was talking about...things get heated, people retreated!

    Its a hard row to hoe. Someone will lead it, someone will do it...and it will be a long time coming. But the key is that people have to let go of the fear that they feel. They really actually have to practice their faith--whether that be in god, or just within themselves. Master Yoda says, "the fear of loss is the path to the dark side."

    We fear too much, and so we lose precious moments in time. We think that we are held back, butin reality we are not. There is always a way...there is always someone who wants to help, and someone who believes. (hell, people have websites and make all kinds of money on disgusting fetishes, so there MUST be a market for revolution, right??)

    NOW, lets all take a minute, have a bong hit, and decide how to best go about changing the world, okay?
     

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