Make Way For The New Woodstock Revolution!

It is all about money.

Perhaps this issue can be your revolution. Re-inventing music as we know it - recapturing what it once was. No longer about the money, but about its essence.

Now that would be a revolution I could truly get behind.

 

This thread reminds me of the episode of South Park where the hippies wanted to throw a huge festival to change the world and all they did was play music and get high.


I have to fault the original poster for complaining about technology's hold on society while she's making that very claim on a computer. Really want to make a statement about that? Get rid of your computer. Save the internet monthly fee and put it towards college textbooks.

So many people want to relive or recreate the spirit of the 60s while forgetting it was just that...the spirit of the 60s...different era completely. If you take a step back and look at the present day, you'll see that the situations are pretty ripe for a new counterculture to be forged. The way I see it...the beatniks went to bars to search for meaning and spread their message. The hippies went to concerts to search for meaning and spread their message. We go to the web. Use it! You just shared beautiful lyrics in front of more than just the usual drum circle. You ought to be proud of that instead of chasing lightning around with a bottle.

And gardener...I really loved your first message on this thread. I respect those who were there and enjoy the advice.

 

I think its a fantastic idea, many people will be behind you, and id go out and but it anyday, its great that your confident.
Sounds like you were born to change the world for the better.
Good luck

 

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY! I'D FREAKING WORK FOR FREE! I DON'T WANT PEOPLE JUST DOWNLOADING ONE OR TWO SONGS. I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE ALBUM AND ENJOY THE BEAUTY OF EVERYTHING WE DID, NOT JUST THE SONG WE HAVE ON THE RADIO. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?

 

Yes, it makes sense. I know two musicians who, for philisophical reasons, refuse to play into microphones. All of their performances are live (obviously) and they have been making a living for over 20 years by making their music. Your philosophy is diffferent than theirs, but go for it.

 

Breath.


Anger will only dilute your message.

 

I dont know many people who would listen to such a demanding and selfish musician.

"IF YOU DONT LISTEN TO ALL OF MY SONGS YOU CANT LISTEN TO ANY, YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELVES INSTEAD!!!!"

Geez, girl. Smoke some pot, or something. ()

 

You make music so cheap. Doesn't actually having an album, like a Beatles record mean a lot to you? Or at least have sentimental value? It was thrilling when I actually bought a record. I don't want that aspect of it to slip away.

 

They still make records, I still see them for sale at independent music stores. I wouldn't be too worried that they are going to fade out completely just yet.

 

Cds are so small, the experience is rapidly fading anyway. Lps used to come with fantastic cover art and many times free posters. I don't know what you guys/gals pin on your walls anymore. But I agree about the album experience I wore quite a few of my favorites out, playing them over and over again.

I was in college taking Fine Arts, when Abbey Road came out. We played that album in ceramics lab for weeks and discussed whether or not Paul was dead. It was a total experience.

 

That's what I mean. I just wish it was like when we had records. The cover art is a main factor. I'm just really nostalgic. You can't put cover art and posters in an mp3. All my vinyls are my most deeply sentimental possessions. Does anyone else feel that way?

 

Possessions are meaningless.
You can't take them with you when you die.

 

its the music that matters. not the cover art or any of that. and you can still buy cds.

amd what if someone doesnt like your whole album. whjat if they only like the one song on the radio. i dont like the Chili Peppers but i like Dani California. so what, am i supposed to just go and waste $15 on one song? hell no. i only like one song and im not gonna buy the hwole album and just listen to the one.

 

The cover art and posters of the sixties defined my generation as much as the music, I think. But then I was a graphic artist. Actually art can be embedded in mp3s, it just isn't done much.

 

You know, woodstock child, i know you are trying to hash things out and think and discuss, BUT dont get down on yourself too much, and dont try and over think the process before it comes to pass.

Music is love. Love is free... Living is the catalyst for creation of things like music and love. These concepts are simple. dont complicate them too much.

In the same vein, i understand your frustration and the feeling like things are overwhelming. Thing ARE overwhelming, but only to the point at which you let them live.

it sounds like you are sort of going through what i am experiencing lately. I feel like i want to give out this message and this love that i have/feel, but when you try to do that, you are met with much opposition and the world begins to feel vast and unending. Sometimes it feels there are few places where you can find a companion or a kindred spirit. Its a crazy world, and its hard to see how being loving and peaceful and conscience of your message really changes things: but that is from the inside. When other people see you doing it, they are impressed or maybe endeared or whatever. They feel something. That is kind of how music is too. It makes you feel something. Something you cant explain. Its the same with love-- this thing you cant explain...

Even though its hard, and even though sometimes it takes a lot of conscious effort, its worth following through with...I think i meant that last line for myself as much as anyone else...

 

Actually yes you can, with programs like dBpowerAMP Music Converter.

Not really... I have somewhere around 120 vinyl records, and I don't know if I could really care less about them. I listen to them from time to time, but they are such a hassle. Burned mixed CD's pwn vinyls. Well CD's in general, but whatever.

And if it weren't for the internet there are so many people who wouldn't have heard my music... so I am deeply grateful for MP3's and file sharing. Maybe if you'd actually record some music and try to get it heard you'll see what I mean.

 

Well I would go back into a burning house to get my vinyls. They are the onlye earthly possession (besides my guitar) that is truly a part of me.

 

Out of curiousity where do you buy new needles for your phonograph, they're hard to come by around here now.

 

ok first off, when records came about they were the mp3's of their time, so stop getting so pissy about technology and the fact that we now live in 2006 where by golly we have mp3's. 2nd i dont put sentiment into posessions, posessions can be replaced whereas the people you love cant. and the whole idea of you saying you dont want a person to buy just one of your songs and like it you want them to buy the whole shebang and like them all, hmm a little tyrannical dont ya think? i dont want to be mean, rude or anything, your young and i think you still have a lot to learn before you will truly understand some things, and i hope in time you will learn that some days you just got to go with the flow of the generation that you live in & learn to pick your battles.

 

Let me start by telling you, Woodstock, that I think you really are onto something with this music festival type idea. Being a musician, and especially one who doesn't play music that is considered "popular" myself, I'd like to believe I know where you're coming from at least to a certain degree, if not well. One thing I can say is that you WILL need to look into this further and plan it out well.

BUT, you must never give it up, if this means so much to you. I myself never gave up on it, and I never will. Another thing, do NOT let negative comments of others regarding your music get you down! I guarantee you, there WILL BE such people once you put your music out in public. You can't stop them. Just believe in yourself, your music, the fans you make, and don't let aggressive criticism get to you(although, by all means, BE OPEN to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism at the same time...some people are good at giving others suggestions, and you may benefit from listening to them).

As for the business side of it.... Well, trust me, I KNOW how you feel about it all. I'm the same way with my music, and I'd rather just concentrate on composing and playing than think about money. HOWEVER, money DOES come necessary at times in a musician's life. Putting out an album requires at least some money, and securing a venue can be VERY costly as well. You could promote your music via services such as MySpace Music, SoundClick, or GarageBand.com, for free, but those alone can be rather limiting. You will eventually need other means of exposure, and they can cost you some money as well. Advertising, as much as it may seem capitalistic, is necessary at times.

All that said, I'd be more than happy to give you my share of support in this. Let's not give this up too quickly.