Magic Healing Crystals

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Fueled by Coffee, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I am inclined to believe the placebo effect must be bigger when someone who has faith in healing crystals or rocks look and find one themselves. Like those rocks in a streaming river that have a natural hole in it through erosion. But it all stands or falls with the belief the individual has in it.
     
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  2. guerillabedlam

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    If you come across and ingest these Magic Crystals called "Moon Rocks" at one of these festivals, you may reconsider some of these notions. :)
     
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  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    and all that proves absolutely nothing in terms of a crystals "healing" ability.
     
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  4. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    No, people have experimented with different plants and other natural resources over time and noticed which things made a difference and which ones didn't.
    Where do you think 99% of the pharmaceutical medications originated from?........plants, animals and minerals.
    Doesn't have jack-shit to do with "Earth Energy".
     
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  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    But it doesn't mean it's not a valid attempt to explain the working either. Maybe she wasn't trying to proof anything, just explaining how she thinks it works?
     
  6. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    No, it's more like most do with this type of stuff, try to establish a causation based on similar attributes, but that isn't how science works.
    then she ends it with the remark "it's all science"
    well. show me the friggin' science then!
     
  7. lode

    lode Banned

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    Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper for aliens to mine asteroids?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining
     
  8. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Belief seems to be necessary for a lot of methods of so called 'energy healing.

    Some years ago I had some sessions with a Reiki healer. It didn't really help the physical problem I had at the time, but I have to admit I felt better after the Reiki on a mental and emotional level. I think at the time, I just wanted someone to show some care - and I think that's the case with a lot of people who go in for these types of approaches to healing. My physical problem of that time cleared up by itself eventually - as things often do.
     
  9. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I didn't take you to raise, so I'm not going to spoon feed you. The internet and libraries are there for anything you're interested in learning.


    In layman's terms:

    Crystals have energy and they can be a source of support to you because of the way those vibrations interact with you.
     
  10. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    layman's terms are kind of ambiguous. magic means you don't have to understand how something works. if it works for you, it does, if it don't it don't.
    the brain has a powerful effect on the rest of the body. so how you feel can have a real physical effect on health. not just generally but specific healing as well.
    personally i doubt 'the vibrations of crystals' except in the euphmistic sense of a focus, that, for some people, can do what ever it does, perhaps through their mind, perhaps through some kind of non-physical energy, again each person percieves things in their own way.
    the language is far from scientific, but its a mistake to dismiss out of hand, the interaction of mind, body and nonphysical.
    science may be the limits of knowledge, but knowledge, is far from being the limits of existence.
    even science itself, the experience of it, can tell us that.
     
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  11. Aerianne

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    Not everything that happens to your body has to happen in such a thunderous way that you are aware of it as it is happening.

    Do you feel the cells in your body reproducing?

    How about the mites feeding on your face and eyelashes?

    No, you don't because it's subtle, relatively speaking.
     
  12. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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  13. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    So in other words you got nothing to substantiate the claims concerning healing crystals.
     
  14. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Are you for real? It's not like I don't have a hectic life outside these boards. Staying on here and carrying conversations isn't my life's calling you know.

    If I recall, some of the vendors listed the healing properties of certain stones. Some of them said to have prevented sickness and promoted faster healing of wounds and illnesses. I don't recall curing terminal illnesses though so that could have been a hyperbole. Then again the placebo effect and positive attitudes can improve the healing process as well. Studies have shown that patients have better recovery times in hospital rooms with windows than those without. And they do better in rooms with pretty artwork as well.
    As I said, if people wanna believe there is magic vibrations in these stones that make them feel better, and they feel better as a result of their beliefs, more power to them. Honestly, I would sooner resort to forcing myself to believe in healing crystals to rid myself of depression long before I'd take anti-depressants. Much of my teenage years were all fucked up thanks to anti-depressants.
     
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  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Thats awesome! I'd travel there just because I like pretty rocks.
     
  16. themnax

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    there is a magic of being in a certain kind of magical place.

    if you've never felt that, no amount of words can make it work for you.

    for me, that kind of place is not about sapient personalities, whether non-physical ones might be there or not.

    it is possible to fiddle with probability, and like a lot of things, anything you can say about magic, you can find exceptions to.

    so there is still room for magic, if we allow ourselves to recognize the limits of knowledge, not limiting what is capable of existing.

    it is a fanatasy to imagine magic a reliable technology, i would be the last to deny that,
    but it is a conclusion that does not follow from its premis, to exclude the existence of anything we don't know, on the basis of our not knowing it.
     
  17. Aerianne

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    I saw that you came by and liked something in the thread. I saw that you were online after I posted my question to you. I'm sorry. I assumed you were ignoring my question.
     
  18. Aerianne

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    There's plenty to substantiate it. You could research all the connections I listed in the post where I ended with saying "It's science".

    I don't feel the need to personally substantiate any of it.

    I am saying that crystals vibrate and that having them on your person can support healing because your body can feel these subtle vibrations, and that they are helpful to all living things.

    Some people don't understand the subtle healing that the elements offer, and though I think it's a shame not to embrace it, that's as far as I'm concerned with it.

    I don't care to beat you, nor anyone else, over the head about it. You can avail yourself of what's there or not.
     
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  19. Aerianne

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    Anyone interested could research things such as vibrational medicine.
     
  20. guerillabedlam

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    The first link that came up for me on vibrational medicine...

    Couldn't think of a better example why it's always best to post your own sources to support your assertions.
     
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