Magic Healing Crystals

I know, I work on a cancer ward

Fortunately, we have a national health service and that tends to deflect the cost of treatment away from the patient (but god knows this isn't the thread for THAT debate lol)

with regards to our ancestors, firstly, I think its worth bearing in mind that their life expectancy was so low that they generally didn't have to worry about diseases like cancer and alzheimers, they were often mainly concerned with alleviating pain and immediate ailments like broken bones and joint issues. these are concerns where the placebo and active placebo effects could actually have done some good (interestingly, the earliest example of tattooed human skin shows designs directly above damaged joints, implying that this was some form of ritualized medicine.)

I'm not saying that they knew nothing or that their medicine has no value in today's world, but what I am saying is that it's important to make sure that when we research that knowledge we make pains to separate legitimate medicine which they discovered from stuff which had religious significance to them and/or only functions as placebo. thing is we have the tools to make that distinction. we have the tools to actually take their knowledge and improve upon it and use it as the foundation stone for modern medicinal practices and medicines.

There is no value in simply taking everything they did at face value and saying "well it must be right because its old." no. We need to investigate, apply the hard-won tools and hard-learned lessons of medicinal science and bring it to bear on ancient practices. That's how we save lives.

But look, more power to your sister, just try and discourage her from making any claims she can't back up, just for the sake of my blood pressure

 

I stick entirely by what I said in the first quote. I'm not disputing any of the facts that you listed, but I see no reason to think that crystals have healing properties based on any of them, or a combination of them.

To make my example less extreme and more relevant to what you're saying: I fail to see why if object A vibrates and object B vibrates, that that would have any effect on the emotions or health of object B (barring placebo effects, which would be a result of expectation, rather than vibration)

You seem to see a link between the two that has the potential to impact either emotions or health, I don't see any evidence for that, but more than that, I don't even really see the logical progression.

The second quote was a direct response to your response to my claim that selling "healing crystals" to cancer patients was monstrous, so I certainly thought we were in conversation, perhaps we were speaking at cross purposes. I certainly wasn't claiming that you or anyone that you might associate with was monstrous, but I thought the act was monstrous. My thought was that we were in conversation but not necessarily in an argument.

 

Right.

I don't believe that selling healing crystals to cancer patients is monstrous.

You don't believe that crystals have properties to support healing.

 

In a nutshell

 

I wouldn't get to attached to how accurate those "double blind studies" are that big pharma has to do... They only need to show a 51% to 49% improvement over sugar pills and they can do an unlimited number of studies just to get the three needed for submission. All the failed studies get locked away as "trade secrets"....


If there were a "big crystal" group/corporation with enough money to do the same thing, they could generally come up with the same results...

 

this reminds me, i lost my virginity to a Crystal. makes me slightly more supportive suddenly.

 

Well to be honest my first sex toy was glass.
Sure cured some ailments I'd been having.

 

When I was at a summer festival, I found one of those magic crystal vendors was selling ground-up gem stones that were placed in silicone strips with "essential oils" "liquid crystal" "flower essences" and "yummy earth ingredients" which they used as a matting material. They said that it brings positive ions into our bodies after a typical human has so much exposure of negative ions that are released by electronic devices and appliances. They incorporated this silicone gem stone matting material into a lot of products like bracelets, cell phone cases, insoles, sandals, bras, backpacks, and more. They gave me a free cell phone case, but I sure as fuck wasn't gonna give them any money for anything.

 

I feel the energy of the earth when I hike, I for sure feel the energy of rocks and mountains and water. I have several hikes where I can lay on top of the mountain and can feel so much life and energy, or sit by a waterfall. It seems to me...that would have more healing energy than a rock or crystal that has been broken off, taken away and sold. But I could be wrong.

 

You're right. It's good for you.

 

I'm curious. Did the vendors that you saw make claims that the stones would cure terminal illness?

 

Oh you definitely need to come to Germany and hike through the forest Teutoburg en route to the Externsteine. you'd love it. It is our heathen pillars of great limestone. Very holy place for Germanic Heathens and followers of the Norse and Saxon mythology. I can't link a pic because Google sucks these days. But you'd love it.

 

Posted Yesterday, 01:58 PM

6-eyed shaman, on 31 Aug 2015 - 7:42 PM, said:

Hello?

Is this thing on?

 

No answer.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

Aerianne has convinced me I should visit crystal cave in mexico and live forever


Hotwater

 

Can't tell if sarcasm...

 

How could you miss the little emoticon for sarcasm


Hotwater

 

Well at first I thought it was the eye rolling or googlie eyes one. But upon further review and minor frowning and squinting, I obtained it was just looking up the 2 o'clock position, thus channeling a thought process in which I pondered whether sarcasm was used or not.

Even this shrug shoulder one, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, or shrugging your shoulders as if to say -who knows- and maybe I am just answering my own thoughts and questions as I dribble on here.

 

I have friends who believe in crystals as healing or whatever. They will carry different ones at different times, go in the mystical store and feel them, talk to them, buy them. So, one day we were at ones house who brought all her crystals out for us to feel and talk about. Now some, she had to keep separate because some crystals do not "like"other crystals.

They passed 'em around and each person said they felt this and they felt that. I felt a rock. None of them made my hands warm or tingle or gave me any "feelings".

I think your body does what our brain tells it to, and my friends believed they felt something....so they did.

 

And this is how some people have had crystals help in healing...


Or protection, foreknowledge, scrying, whatever...


Could they have done the same without the crystal? Maybe, maybe not. Crystals make a good focal point and amplifier of energy. Even science has seen that.