Skip this paragraph if you just want the report: Alright, this is my first trip report in a long time. I feel really bad that I didn't get one up for my 1050ug AL-LAD trip (as I haven't seen a report for that dose, thats actually why I decided I had to try it, for the good of collective knowledge), but I had a really hard time integrating that, in fact out of my many experiences with psychedelics, 7 AL-LAD tabs sent me over the edge into a semi-psychotic state for the first time (some call it god-mode, I got insane megalomania and I thought I was Jesus), luckily the worst that happened was I hurt my friends feelings and I stabbed holes in my African talking drum (I loved that thing though, so trippy). Anyway, I feel I've put that trip fully behind me, I learned the many lessons it taught me, that trip was in November and that was my last deep trip. Before that, I had tried 3 tabs of AL-LAD which was a beautiful and colorful expereince, I'll be comparing LSZ to that, and to ~300ug LSD trips I've had. Since then I've taken 400ug of LSZ at New years for a rave, but a rave hardly counts as really tripping I think. So now that you know I'm a crazy acid head, here's on with the report. T + 0:00 - Drop 4 tabs, my friend was just getting ready to leave my place, I was doing some sketches for him for his tattoo design. I wanted this trip to be fully solo, as I haven't had one of those in at least a year. T + 0:20 - First alerts felt, feels like the comeup of insanely clean Lucy (which since this is legal lab grade, this is probably cleaner than any lucy I've tried). My friend was sticking around and he cracked a beer and we talked about many ideas for the future involving aquaponic agriculture (my friend is a controller in oil field, becoming a power engineer, so he is interested in pipes and control systems). T + 0:40 - The comeup is hitting me fast and hard. I can't help but drumming on my djembe to the Stickybuds Shambhala 2013 mix (which I saw live, so it brings back beautiful memories) that I had playing. I'll link that here, my favorite part of the mix comes at about 35-45 minutes, which is where I started drumming: https://soundcloud.com/stickybuds/stickybuds-fractal-forest-1 T + 0:55 - My friend actually has to do some errands around the area, so he suggests I come for a ride. He knows how fun a ride can be when under the influence of psychedelics. We get outside and I thought I was tripping hard inside, but holy shit did it ever hit me in the face when we got outside and into his car. I could hardly form sentences at this point, but I had a very positive outlook. T + 1:10 - I was sitting in the car waiting for my friend to be done in the convenience store, at this point I was listening to this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3qfhTTJJCU"]Tipper - Bubble Control - YouTube I closed my eyes, the CEV's were underwhelming, but it felt like I was actually in a submarine listening to that track. The car flet like it was moving and being pushed by water. When I had my eyes open I noticed all kinds of people watching me, because my friends subs in his car were turned up fairly high. With my eyes open, EVERYTHING was breathing. At this point I began to notice what people refer to as bodyload. This is the first time I've EVER had this. I'd decribe it as a nagging neck tension that made it feel like I needed to stretch or change positions but it would never go away. I can see why people say that LSZ has a more intense bodyload than LSD, and AL-LAD was even more comfortable than LSD. T + 1:30 - We arrived back to my home base, said our goodbyes and from this point my trip was solo. I took a shower just because I know how amazing that usually feels on psychedelics. In the shower, thousands of water droplets formed on the clear plastic curtain I have, and they became a rainbow, fractal, spining mandala much like this one, but more fractal-like: The OEV's were very intense, I'd say even a bit deeper and more detailed than LSD, while the CEV's, even in the shower (where I usually experience the most intense CEV's) were always underwhelming when compared to AL-LAD or LSD. T + 2:00 - I felt like a new person after the shower. I put on some comfortable cloths, put on my sennheisers, picked some music I hadn't heard before, and decided it was time to lay in bed and draw. I couldn't get much traction, because no matter how I sat, my neck bothered me to the point where I couldn't concentrate. I was getting the 'spinners', as I've heard them called here, all over the ceiling. That is I was seeing spinning fractal mandalas more like this one: It was the coolest effect, and one I've tried to describe before, like colors (yellow -yellow, blue - blue) would line up between the spinners to form objects and indecipherable words. T + 2:30 - I decided to put down my pen and I listened to the Wish You Were Here album, a musical pilgrimage I make every time I'm tripping and have the opportunity. Music is enhanced insanely by LSZ. This is something I noticed while dancing on it on new years as well, it seems to lend itself to that at least as well if not better than LSD. The peak definitely hits around the 2 hour mark. T + 3:00 - The peak is going strong at this point, and I felt like being in bed was no longer beneficial. I really had the feeling that I needed to take something out of this trip, whether that be writing, drawing or painting. I sat down and listened to the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, and they were talking about Mitch Hedberg, a legendary comedian that I hold very close to my heart as an aspiring comedian myself. I then realized I'd never listened to all of his albums, so I downloaded those and put them on. I thought of a few interesting quotes during this time, one of them was "Never let anybody teach the wonder out of you", this was also in response to my friend trying to convince me of Christianity over facebook, and my telling him I'm trying to find my own spiritual path. I thought about going outside at this point for a nice wintery walk for some drawing inspiration, but cognitively I didn't feel adequate to be in public. T + 4:00 - I put some alphawave binaural beats that included a 528hz tone on my headphones and sat on the floor in meditation. I went insanely deep, and I brought back even more knowledge than I had about the crazy dichotomy of our universe. The things I realized I haven't FULLY integrated yet, I'll update this if I have any new thoughts. T + 4:30 - The peak of the trip began to wane at this point, but the neck tension of the bodyload lingered and became even more noticeable. I sat down at my computer to find some new music, and my friend recommended some good metal (I'm not a metal guy usually, but some of it is good for me) . He showed me this song, which I thouroughly enjoyed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmsaoSebYo"]CYNIC - The Lion's Roar (lyrics video) - YouTube I also watched this video, which is really trippy and beautiful, not my favorite rap, but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4xmySx08M"]Kingdom Crumbs - Evoking Spirits... [OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO] - YouTube It was also during this time at the computer that I decided I would really try to learn drawing with a pen, so I searched up the facebook page Earth Porn, and I was immediately inspired by a picture of a hatchling bird: The drawing basically took the rest of the trip, and the neck tension was tedious during this time, and I also constantly got bored of drawing the bird so I would draw spirals and such around it. This kind of ADD ruined the drawing as a serious piece, but I still enjoy it. I also never quite finished the bird, instead I wrote 'who the fuck cares' in the space I gave up shading: Anyway, the trip lasted until about T + 10:00, then I took some melatonin and went to bed. I began to sleep about 2-3 hours later, though it was difficult despite the melatonin. Thats it. I still feel like I owe the community at least on AL-LAD report, so I'll try to get on that soon. I am all out of that stuff though, and the remaining LSZ I have I am saving for Shambhala. I would totally recommend both, I'd stick with 3 or less tabs of LSZ because of bodyload, and 3 tabs of AL-LAD was one of the most perfect trips I've had.
Thanks! Yeah, the spirals represent the fibonacci sequence which continuously made itself apparent to me, especially while drawing the area around the eye. The piece wouldn't have been trippy at all or different if I didn't go a bit crazy on the background, so I'm fine with it. I just wish I put a bit more thought into the background and made it even more trippy.
The OEV's, music enhancement and some of the perceptual affects sound really amazing! The main thing holding me back from exploring this compound is the body tension. I've heard a few mentions of that now with this chem and I get that sometimes with LSD, so LSZ being heavier on that aspect doesn't sound particularly appealing to me. I'll probably stick with your 3 or less tabs reccomendation if I do explore the chem, I don't really have a desire to explore all the various lysergamides for the sake of exploring them, I'm fairly content with exploring LSD or AL-LAD but this chem seems to be the easiest to come by and you make it sound like it retains a lot of the qualities of the other lysergamides. Cool Drawing!
the OEVs sounds especially strong on this substance. but the body tension makes it sounds like you prefer AL-LAD? i give you props for having the attention span to draw as much as you did on a trip. i drew a bird for art class in high school, and it's still on my parents' fridge haha. i should try and get a picture of it so i can show you. i'm not really an artist though, mostly i just doodle because a real work of art takes a lot of time and is tedious work. i got a couple psychedelic doodles hanging up at my lab bench. anyways..sounds like a solid trip. the DNA spirals are cool. and the "ghost bird" in the bottom right
I absolutely recommend giving this a try, just because of how clean and pure the chemical is on the blotter. I know you tried AL-LAD, I imagine you had a similar feeling of purity on that, I sure did. It's a tough thing to describe how amazing clean acid is, but the headspace of this stuff matches that very closely. I almost couldn't tell this was anything but straight LSD-25, if not for the neck tension. The neck tension probably woulnd't have bothered me much if I wasn't trying to sit down for multiple hours with my head at an angle drawing. When I did try meditation at the peak, I was able to completely transcend any bodyload. I think it will be valuable in the future to be able to discern these compounds from LSD, as I really do think once the new synthesis method hits the public internet, this stuff is going to flood the LSD market. And like I said, LSZ shouldn't really be messed with at the same heroic doses, just because the bodyload appears to get worse as the dose is increased. You are correct, OEV's are like no other lysergimide I've tried (there's only 2 :2thumbsup, they are possibly less colorful than AL-LAD (Al-Lad was suuuuuper colorful, but not quite as intricate or deep into fractals). And yeah I'd be interested in seeing your bird drawing! I never learned much from art classes, I just learned by doodling, and once I tried drugs I was able to focus for the hours it takes to actually come out with more than a doodle. I would say I prefer AL-LAD, but I kinda lost control on it, I've never lost control on anything before. I think that can be blamed on the desicion to take 7 tabs, not the 7 tabs themselves though. If I ever see AL-LAD again, I will definitely jump on it, especially if powders available, like it looks like some people had the treat of getting fairly cheaply at the beginning of availability.
yeah i would grab some AL-LAD too if i knew where to get any. i'm not all that surprised that you lost control on over 1 mg of a lysergamide though
just save the art and continue it on the next trip. A two trip art piece! I call dibs for putting it on my wall
You know, that is a good idea. I don't know if it will be this piece though, I'm thinking of doing a colorful one next with a treefrog or something. I would rather have a painting after two trips anyway, but I think the next time I'll be tripping and painting is at Shambhala, I'll post the results of that when it comes. I painted on a jedi flip there this past summer and was having quite a good time, the painting was 'dibsed' before i got any photos though
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Haha, thanks! Yeah, that picture was a good image of my headspace at the time, I was very uncomfortable at the time, and I really didn't care. I don't take my pieces too seriously anyway. I sent a friend a picture of the drawing as I was drawing it, and he said "Of course birds smile, look at big bird", I was too far in to change it or start again! I'll post the drawing I'm working on right now that was semi-inspired by this trip, much higher vibes. The LSZ produced now is more pure probably than most LSD any of us have tried as it is legally produced. I haven't tried san pedro/mescaline, or HBWSeeds because I really really never want to vomit on psychedelics, despite hearing its not that bad, its been like 4-5 years since I threw up and that would just be too upsetting to me. I see FROGS smile all the time EDIT:Here's it finished actually:
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i don't have a pic of the bird drawing yet, but here are a couple doodles that i've done at work i saved your frog drawing to my computer and have been using it as a background for awhile. hope you don't mind
I think this [LSZ] has a good chance of being the next chem I order. Never done chems in tha class except for LSD-25. There's sooooo many chemicals I wanna explore tho.
Good report! I have tried LSZ and I enjoyed it despite the vascular constriction and bloating/gas issues which were somewhat similar to LSA, but not as intense. I am interested in AL-LAD or ALD-52 (if available) because of how you've claimed it to be more comfy than LSD. I've heard stories that they are almost indistinguishable from an other, while other people claim they have slightly different effects. Which out of them (out of LSZ, AL-LAD or LSD) would you say is more rich in the food for thought category?
It is really tough to gauge 'food for thought', especially since I've had so many psychedelic experiences, a lot of the thoughts are places I've been before and I also meditate now and know how to better harness the experience. Al-lad gave me the most powerful and meaningful experiences in my life, but that was on a higher dose than I've ever tried on Lucy or lsz. I did that high dose because of the comfortability factor of al-lad. I'd say it's definitely dose delendant as to how deep you go. So far I definitely prefer al-lad for deep journeys, also because of the shorter duration. I'd say try all three. My next experiments are going to be testing combinations of all three, that is once I can get al-lad again and once I find Lucy again.
