LSD respect

this says a lot to me.

i know that you are still young and that even if you were older there would still be a problem with you hearing the point i am about to make. i am going to make it anyways...

alcohol is not at all something you should be doing if you want to become an enlightened person.

do yourself a favor and right down all the things that alcohol does that is good for you. - not that it feels good... what are the benefits to drinking alcohol? when you do this with weed and lsd at least you will come up with some good answers.

alcohol is legal because it is very useful in keeping the drones just where they want them. -blind and dumb!!! alcohol makes you forget your problems. for some it makes you more sociable and for them i would say learn to be confident without the booze - it is for your own good, at least that way you can be confident that you dont sound like a stupid drunk.

have you ever woken up the next day after a night of drinking lying beside some chick that looks totally different with sober eyes? i have. but i never had that problem with weed or acid.

 

Hey Peter - A lot of people do drugs without the intention of learning anything, so it's more of an escape for them. And when they do encounter new and AMAZING ideas they're too afraid to go with them, so usually they'll just end up dancing, digging some music, etc... and go back into their shitty lives thinking "wow, lsd didn't do anything for me".

the first time I did peyote was a HUGE suprise. one reason is that I didn't realize that i had so much shit to let go of. you probably understand what I mean since you've discovered yourself using lsd some people after realizing this would just say "ok - whatever" and they'd go along and forget about it. what i did was start making big changes from that day on. it was a few experiences later that I had the "god experience" and came to the greatest realization of all - that I am You and You are Me and Everything truly is One. Now if I was afraid to face this fact, I may have turned away from this amazing revelation, but I started seeing and realizing that this is completely true.

So for a lot of people I think the reasons they forego the amazing things they realize on drugs is out of fear. This society has them scared shitless since day 1, and they believe that fear is natural and it's who they are. So many people are afraid to cross those imaginary boundries.

My suggestion would be to get together with these people and have them drop some massive amounts of LSD (300 to 500 micrograms), and you can help guide them through their fears and inhibitions. I've tried to help people with stuff like this while they were sober, and it just doesn't seem to sink in like it does when my head is cracked open by some beautiful LSD or mescaline

PM me - I think we've got a lot of similar experiences and understandings

 

hahaha thanks for trying to explain LSD to me. Sitting around all day thinking about everything negativly is not the way to go. You should try thinking constructivly.

 

What if your confidence soars and your really fucking happy but you still like to drink booze? Than what? . Alcohal is good, it helps ugly people get laid.

 

so... i take it you are ugly.

you probably drink to forget that you are an asshole.

asshole- where the shit comes out!

 

you are a hypocrite!

 

im starting to actually like this thread now.

alchole is the socially and legally accepted drug, its just a flat intoxication, without any of the mind opening effects which even marijuana has. but ultimatly alchole is completly natural, it could brew on a peice of rotting fruit on the groud. and whilst it isnt like other drugs, ill still drink it for it.

remember the sixties, and what happend once they all took acid. acid is so powerfull that it did what it did, and seeing what it did to even me and my friends, then for somone to tell me they learn nothing, just was astonishing. but i guess its just the way it is.

lifelovefun- that I am You and You are Me and Everything truly is One.
iv written a whole post like that, iv beleived that at one stage, still do in a way.

 

The irony of my 'hostile englightened person' statement was intentional. Personally, I make no claims to enlightenment and I am suspicious of anyone who does. While I generally try to avoid referring to things like the quest for enlightenment in a linear sense (stages, higher levels, etc.) I do really feel when one is in the infancy of this quest for inner knowlege, sometimes he can take himself too seriously and expect others to do the same. Sometimes it's ok to just throw your head back and laugh at the world and yourself, having a good time and not becoming attached to your precious thoughts. Such people are (in my opinion) fun to get drunk with, too. If attachment is the cause of suffering, then in this case, I think the frustration of feeling alienated from other people comes from the attachement to whatever knowlege is allegedly putting one on a different level. Perhaps there's an attachment to one's image of himself as a philosoper or whatever.

 

sorry if it came across that way, i wasnt trying to explain it to you...i dont doubt you know LSD in and out i was just proving a point.

 

your a 31 year old who spends way to much god damn time on hip-forums.

 

your a 31 year old who spends way to much god damn time on hip-forums talking to a bunch of kids.

 

Try to answer my first question. What if your confident and happy but you still like drinking?

 

Drinking is so much fun! Its especially fun when you puke in the girls lap you are trying to hook up with, then laugh about it. PARTY ON!

 

oops... did i piss off the asshole.

sorry.

a few minutes a day is too much for ya. who the fuck made you king shit around here?

my words are wizdom for those who choose to here it.

eman resu - why dont you try spending a little more time with your posts. you say that you are intelligent but never seem to spit out more then one line of crap. try making a point - it is exhilarating.

 

LOL... ya that sounds like fun!,,, something to feel good about... ya i get it.

alcohol is a waste. - fun, feels good, party party party, with absolutely no real benefit what so ever. get wasted, but realize that you are only getting wasted.

alcohol has an effect that is pretty much the opposite of what LSD does.

acid opens your eyes and your mind, alcohol closes your eyes and puts you to sleep - memory and all.

 

3xi has a well formed and experienced understanding, his perspective and wisdom has helped my comprehension in many aspects.

That, is something i value - you are not.

 

eman doesnt know shit. And when someone calls him on it all he can respond with is an insult. Dont take anything he says seriously or let it get to you.

eman, you tell people not to think negatively? I havent read one post where you arnt insulting someone...and the insults arnt even constructive or on topic....case in point, insulting 3xi's age....wtf? your dumb man, you laugh at me for trying to explain LSD to you, but judging by your posts its a lesson someone should teach you cause its a 101 course you obviously have never taken

 

Way to sound like a complete retard. So now alcohol is evil and keeps people in line? Not everyone uses alcohol for the reasons you're pulling out. Maybe acid is just a crutch to escape reality for a period of time as well? Perhaps any recreational drug or activity is a way to become more confident around people? Why don't you "learn to be enlightened without drugs"? Fuck. See how negativity works?

How about keeping your negativity preaching to yourself, maybe let us know how it works out for you in a few months, huh?

Try learning how to accept others choices and allow them to dictate their own actions without someone condemning their harmless decisions.

 

Saying that people shouldn't be posting on forums after a certain age, calling people ugly, and petty insults of all kinds (why insult alcohol?) are counterproductive to the dialogue that should be happening here. The original discussion was about some people having difficulty relating to others who seem to trivialise the LSD experience. There seem to be two different viewpoints here, the first is that LSD, when properly used, can bring insights & enlightenment that makes it difficult to relate to people who don't seem to be on the enlightened level. The other is that some people go through all of the learning & enlightenment and it becomes a part of them, but they don't dwell on how different it makes them from other people, and can somehow just remember tripping to be a fun experience, without having to pin down all of the intricacies of everything it taught them. Personally, I think that these different viewpoints are highly reconcilable. For example, I think that everyone learns a lot from tripping, but not everyone has the ability or even feels like describing their knowlege. Oh, and beer helps some people take themselves less seriously, which I think a lot of folks need to do.

 

chill out...hes not preaching, and if you have a problem with what he says then close your eyes and scoll down, his comment was far more constructive then that rubbush you just posted....do you even take acid? Probably not judging from that last remark

If you did you would know that LSD doesnt work that way. You cant take it to escape reality. Whilst it does take you out of reality persay, it shows your everyday reality in an alternative light in a way that it cant be escaped. If you hate your life and you want to escape, and you dose....your gonna hate your life alot more on acid; trust me.

And while some people do drink recreationally most people dont. So If you try telling me right now that you drink 4 or 5 beers to get loose and have a good time and that you never get wasted- too wasted- or even balckout...im not going to beleive you, because very few young people have that mentallity and if you do....hey, more power to yah; but i doubt it.

Drinking is hedonistic, people drink to escape, people dose for different reasons. Read up on the study done in the 50s and 60s with alcoholics and LSD if you dont beleive me, many of the alcoholics and the drug addicts that LSD was originally tested on reported negative comments on the drugs effects. LSD is recreational and spiritual...try taking it to escape, and the effects wont be pretty