losing virginity to a vibrator?

masturbation is normal and healthy, it stimulates blood flow to the genitals, allows us to maintain our sexual selves, etc. and, being female, i dont really have to worry about zinc deficiencies from ejaculation even if it was a legitimate concern. not to mention, if that was the case (ejaculation = bad), then guys shouldnt be having sex or ever ejaculating, n'est pas? such silliness

 

I think you should not force the vibrator issue yet. Of course you can talk her into using it given the time but...she might have regrets afterwards...and this might affect your relationship as well. Vibrator stays in the box for now

 

You're right, non-orgasmic sex is the way to go. And you're silly, just ignorant.

 

id rather be schizophrenic and still have sex, than to be sane without.

its a release also. just imagine the sexual tension if you did nothing, how that would effect your life, farrkkkiin idiot.

and he rekons we shouldnt be brainwashed by crazy propaganda. bahaha

 

OMG!
are you serious?

we are MADE to procreate (guys need to release sperm to do that). and i pretty sure that ejaculation is a healthy, NORMAL thing otherwise it wouldnt happen.
if guys have a zinc deficiency its not from masturbating. its from not eating the right foods.

also ... not "releasing" often enough has been directly linked to prostate cancer.
and that is a scienctific and medical FACT
not taoist tradition.

 

Nope it's not a fact, firstly masturbation is ASSOCIATED with lower rates of prostate cancer, no causal link has been proved. Secondly, supposing prostate stimulation reduced the risk of prostate cancer, it would be stimulated by both non-orgasmic sex and masturbation to orgasm, it hasn't been proven that one is 'better' than the other, and thirdly even if it does decrease the risk of prostate cancer slightly it's detrimental to a man's OVERALL heath. That is scientific fact. I agree that a man should have orgasmic sex to procreate, but it's far healthier for him to practice non-orgasmic sex 'normally.'


You could get a group of people who have great eyesight together and ask them about their alcohol intake, then get a group of people who wear glasses together and ask them the same question. Supposing the people with better eyesight happened to drink less alcohol, it wouldn't prove that it was the alcohol intake causing the good eyesight, there would merely be an association. That's what's happened in the case of masturbation being associated with less prostate cancer.

If you eat healthily and take vitamin and mineral supplements, as I do, your vitamin and mineral levels can still be lowered by frequent ejaculation. It is important for human heath to have all of the elements we need for our bodies to remain healthy, but it's also important for human health for us to not needlessly deplete our reserves by frequently ejaculating.

 

As always, people who can't debate have to result to childish name-calling.

I didn't say people shouldn't have sex; the scientific research proves that frequent orgasmic sex is unhealthy and drives a couple apart, frequent ejaculation and orgasm by masturbation is proven to be unhealthy too, while non-orgasmic sex keeps a couple strongly bonded together, and healthier. There is such a thing as a 'valley' orgasm that people who practice non-orgasmic sex (IE. non-'standard' orgasm) get, which is much more satisfying overall than a 'normal' orgasm.

 

i dont think people would really give a shit if sex was killing them or giving them cancer. most of the scientific facts lead us to beleive how good sex is for us, not only pyschically good, but mentally good. and the truth is, even if your right, people dont want to know about it. sex is good end of story.

just like people smoke even tho its killing them

 

technically you cant lose virginity to a vibrator. come guys its a freaking object with no life so how can it take away your virginity?

 

It depends what you do with the vibrator. To put it on your clit. for example I wouldn't consider loosing your virginity. To penetrate yourself that would be your first penetration, and then you have sex with a guy and you've already had a huge vibrator up you, you wouldn't be as tight, so you wouldn't feel like a virgin to him. It depends on what you consider loosing your virginity. I don't consider someone who's been penetrated with another man's penis, or something like a penis (a vibrator) a virgin.

 

well...I assume that inserting the vibe would cause her to "lose her virginity" regarding being penetrated for the first time....I would have her use that vibe on her clit while you go in...might help her have a really good time...

 

That sounds like the best bet to me

 

The technical definition of a virgin is one who has not experienced sexual union, and the definition of sexual union is the penetration of the penis into a vagina. Which leaves homosexuals as "technically" virgins, although that is a tricky subject due to other types of penetration. But that clears up the confusion about a vibrator, because a vibrator is not a penis. Therefore, there is no sexual union, and one remains a virgin.

Peace and love

 

First of all, you started calling people idiots, so blame yourself for being childish and not able to debate.

Second, I have looked at your sources and they are flat out wrong. Taoism embraces human sexuality, not try to stop orgasms. Buddhism holds orgasm as a special state of mind.

Here's a source that links multiple orgasms with decrease in depression: http://healing.about.com/od/sexualhealing/a/tantricsex.htm

Peace and love

 

By the way, Fibre1, I just read a previous thread that you made and I am disgusted. You have no right to criticize people who masturbate when you are promoting child molestation, even worse, by their fathers! I was molested as a young child and it has scarred me in so many ways. What is your problem?

Peace and love

 

As usual you're talking shit, the penetration of the vagina by a penis isn't "technically" when a woman loses her virginity. "Technically" a virgin looses her virginity if she has her vagina/anus penetrated, or has oral sex. If a woman has given a blowjob to many men to she's be a whore, not a virgin. An erect penis, vibrator, dildoe - they can all penetrate a vagina or anus.

 

I've never promoted child "molestation," get your facts right.

 

I am not promoting any religion. I've given some scientific facts, your IQ seems to be too low for you to be able to understand. Regular orgasms CAUSE depression. I've not called people childish names, I've accurately described people. There is no point talking to idiots like you, you choose to believe masturbation is healthy because you haven't got the brains and guts to believe the truth. People like you are the reason the world is in the state it's in, you're the reason we're all oppressed, you're the reason for war, well you're only destroying yourselves.

The articles I link on this thread are all backed up by scientific studies. The article you link to has no references, and it's scientifically inaccurate.

 

Dude, take a look in the mirror once in a while. When you can't find facts to support your position besides a couple obscure websites, that in fact, don't have resources or anything scientific based, you resort to name calling, ridicule, and stereotypes. I hope the world you live in isn't shattered by reality anytime soon.

Peace and love

 

"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex,"

"The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

"Children should learn that there is no such thing as shameful parts of the body. The body is a home, which you should be proud of."

That's called molestation. Get your facts right.

Peace and love