looking to possibly get a new acoustic

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Deranged, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    Thinkin about possibly dropping a couple grand on a nice high end acoustic. Was wondering if anyone had any advice. Im strongly considering a martin d28 or koa taylor

    Maybe something made of madagascar rosewood or that chocobo rosewood shit. Taylor gibson or martin probably. Im no expert though so whaddya all think?
     
  2. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Why? Save it for a reward when you get really good. There's plenty of excellent acoustic guitars made from plain ol' Mahogany, spruce and India rosewood. High end instruments are for high end musicians, and most of the differences just amount to bling factor anyway. Get a guitar that shows off your skills, not how deep your pocket book.
    Koa...WTF mang, that shits dang near extinct! And we don't need to feed the demand for Brazilian Pernambuco either... natives chopping down the rainforest for a sack of rice and beans...
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Was in Hawaii a couple months ago and brought an Ibanez accoustic bass for US$400, which was a sweet buy cos it was a $150 cheaper than at home and it looks far more expensive than it is.

    But I dont really see the point of spending thousands on the guitar itself nowadays, with all the digital tools available, hell, you dont even need pedals anymore, just buy the right interface and tweek the software
     
  4. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    Im no pro but i still wanna buy a good enough guitar that ill never need another acoustic
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    When it comes to practicising, you are more likely to do it if you have a hundred ways to make it sound different and have that variety, drum machine too for when you are practicing by your self. laptop, software, speakers to all make it more interesting, better to spend money on that. Just an acoustic thats going to sound the same all the time gets boring
     
  6. Wizardofodd

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    I totally understand that but I still have the $300 guitar that I learn how to play on as a kid. My son also learned on it too and both of us are pretty fond of it. It plays just a nice as my other more expensive acoustics. When I play an acoustic...it's usually that one.

    Not saying this is you but too many people go out and buy the best guitar, pay for lessons, have all the best toys....except for the chops to play. Then they get bored and it was all a big waste of money. So buy whatever you want but remember that it won't matter unless you bust ass on it. I think I agree with the earlier point about making it a reward. I happen to own a good number of guitars and I play a very high end electric on stage but I have the chops to make a cheap $200 pawn shop guitar at least sound decent. And I never bought what I own now until I was already fairly advanced and had been playing live for nearly a decade. Not trying to discourage you but it's kind of nice to have a little reward down the road too.
     
  7. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Get too nice of a guitar and you won't want to take it out! As I said, plenty of lifetime keeper quality guitars out there without all the bling.

    "Give me a good tool for the job... not too good... good enough to be used."
    (~ unknown)
     
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    Takamine and Guilds always served me well., but Id like to get a Martin just cause..
     
  9. Wizardofodd

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    Like a car that is brand new and shiny. Look at Willie Nelsons guitar. That is a lifetime keeper if there ever was one. Imagine how many hours he played it to make it look like it does. Thousands of hours.
     
  10. Wizardofodd

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    And I hope I didn't sound like a dick in my first post. I certainly didn't mean to. But look at Jimi...if all someone had was a low end right-handed guitar....he could just flip it over, play it upside-down and still sound better than 98% of guitar players out there.
     
  11. Gongshaman

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    Hey, you callin' a stratacaster low rent? ;) LOL back then they certainly were...now it's still the same cheap guitar, they just cost a hell of a lot more! :( I like strats for what they are, lots of really high end guitarists still prefer them. I play a "super-strat" (Charvel 3) but it has a really hot humbucker and a better trem than a stock fender strat

    Acoustics are a little different story, a lot more craftsmanship goes into getting a good sound in a high quality acoustic instrument.

    "Trigger" (Willys classical guitar with the big hole worn in it) has a unique sound, though probably not the kind of sound that one would find terribly appealing if you aren't Willy Nelson, if you know what I mean...;)
     
  12. Wizardofodd

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    Low rent? Hahaha! That actually cracked me up. :) I've only had one strat type of guitar and it was a knock-off that I had a long time ago. The only guitar I've ever had that I don't still own. I didn't care for that one very much but some knock-offs are pretty decent. I have a vintage SG import (circa 69' or 70 according to our guitar guy) that looks, plays and sounds like the real deal but it's slightly head-heavy. But if you're sitting down, you don't even notice the head weight. I should bust that thing out now that I'm thinking about it.

    But acoustics....there is such an array of quality available today. I've played $1500-$2500+ guitars that I didn't like as much as the one I learned on. I've played cheap guitars that I thought were really pretty decent. I think one thing to think about for someone who maybe is just kind of coming up....your preferences will probably change with time. I remember years ago...I borrowed an acoustic from someone and it was supposed to be such a high end guitar but I hated it. I thought it was junk. The name on it didn't make it feel any better in my hands. The sound was just ok and the neck was much thicker than I was used to and I just didn't like it. It looked cool but it just wasn't for me. So that's something for Deranged to consider. It doesn't matter what it is or what it cost. What matters is what you do with it.
     
  13. Deranged

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    Let me rephrase...if you had to drop like 2 or 3 grand on an acoustic what would you get?
     
  14. Gongshaman

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    It depends on the type of music you are going to use it for, and the kind of sound you expect to get out of it...

    Personally, for 3 grand I would be looking at a mid-range classical guitar.
    I would want to play quite a few before I could decide. Acoustic instruments are all individual, and while some makers are more consistent than others, you might find good ones alongside average ones of the same model and make.

    Just go play a bunch of guitars and buy the one you like.
     
  15. Deranged

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    Man there was this sweet koa back and sides taylor grand symphony or something like that at the guitar shop i was playin. The what i remember reading was koa wasnt brown but a pale light greenish teel. It was like 3 grand and was friggin sweet. Not sure if it really was koa though
     
  16. Gongshaman

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    Koa can range from chestnut brown to the pale greenish teal, the fancier figured grain being the more desirable...or not, depending on your taste. It is really beautiful wood.
    Koa's kind of a hard brittle wood, harder than Mahogany. It'll tend to give an acoustic guitar a brighter sound. If it is real koa it would be an investment, it'll only increase in value, if you don't fuck it up.
     

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