i was a rape counselor and rape has absolutely nothing to do with sex. rape is an act of control and manipulation. chelsea's picture has absolutely nothing to do with someone raping someone else. i don't understand your anger at her shameless heifer. it is a beautiful picture, not like the one's on the sex forums showing everything. i don't feel that chelsea has done anything wrong. all she did was ask for guidance from a mentor, what's wrong with that? what you are saying to her, shameless heifer, is what i've heard so many times when i went to court with rape victims to support them. whenever they had to take the stand the attorney for the rapist would always try to make the victim guilty by saying they asked for it by the way they were dressed. that is such wrong thinking, that is why rape victims are afraid to go to court because they are treated like the victim. that's all i have to say on this post. it is out of control. chelsea meant no harm at all and has done nothing wrong. angel hippiewise
I'm not angry Hippiewise. And I said it was a lovely picture. I was just trying to warn her of what lurks in public forums. And shit happens all the time to the innocent, innocents is no protection. I didn't say it was her fault if she got raped. Don't put words in my mouth please. I was trying to tell her to be carefull who she let metor her, good grief, talk about taking it too far. You just can't see my face and eyes and the love in my heart. You hear what you want. It's not easy trying to be all things for all people. I've worked in several crisis centers in several states, being a surviver of abuse myself. I've had a shelter right in my home. That why I say what I do.. I'm not trying to be mean, I just use strong words. So EXCUSE ME for even taking up space.. now you and yadaya have fun patting each others EGOs Walk in Balance and dont feed the hippie after midnight. sh
sh- theres no need for you to be rude. Young and innocent dont always go hand and hand. I am young, and inexperienced in many ways. But I am not stupid. Dont make me out to be. I have learned from my mistakes in life, and hold them dearly. I would not change anything that has ever happened to me(including being raped) For it is from these experiences that I draw knowledge and gain another insight to who I am and who I am to become. And no, I never though hippywise was a man. I feel like you are taking something out on me. Y do you think that I am only going to listen to men?? Just because I dont agree with your opinion, doesnt mean I am against all women. I think that women are intelligent, beautiful souls, with just as much wisdom as men. And probably more incite into what I am going through, considering I am a woman. I am proud of who I am, and what I have done. At this point in my life, for the first time, I feel so centered and balanced. I am about to complete one chapter of my life, to continue on to what I know will be an even better one. I have a fiance that loves me. . My finals are over, and I grad. school in jan, the career I have wanted since I was 2 is waiting for me when I do. I am happier and healthier, mentally, spiritually, and physically then I have ever been. Hippywise, and sh- I agree with you both. This post has gotten out of control and has been taken to far. I may or may not have found what I was looking for. only time will tell. sh-your right, I cant see your eyes and the love in your heart. I am sure it is there, and Im sure your intentions were of the best. You and I just communicate in different ways. I thank everyone for posting, but I do think that it is best that I stop posting on this thread, and continue my search elsewhere.
And so I hope that something is learned here. Because in searching for mentors, it must come to the place where we realize that we ALL learn from each other, in the most mysterious of ways. Whether we want to admit it or not, every one of us is a teacher, and everyone a student. It matters not if it is a pleasant lesson or an unpleasant one, because the lesson is inescapable unless we are totally blind, or dead. The disagreement here could be used wisely as a teaching. But no one should also close his eyes to the lessons they might be teaching others. We present to others the self that we believe or wish ourselves to be. We are proud, but sometimes our pride makes us blind to the effect we are having on others. Looking for a mentor is not like going shopping. It is about keeping your eyes and mind open, living as close to the way you believe as possible, so that you will attract the appropriate teachers to you, and taking whatever you can learn from each and every soul you connect with.
I'm sorry i have not been keeping up with this post, but those are my thoughts also. if we can't be mentors or guidance for the young people who earnestly want to know things, then piss on us. I respect all the elders here, and sometimes don't feel qualified to offer advice, because I'm still confused myself...I have been going thru a lot of midlife issues and can definitely offer advice on THAT, but I truly respect the wisdom that some of you offer and thought Chelsea could benefit from it too. Chelsea, I think you are true and I hope you will stay around and keep searching for what you need. I know pretty much what you mean, I'm still searching for it at age 47, which is kind of pathetic (for me) but I try to be honest. for a lot of us everything is an eternal search, just keep at it, girl, never stop growing. that is where a lot of people make their mistakes is getting tired from all the shit the world throws at us. I love everyone here on these forums, very few exceptions, and we all have our individual issues. I respect that. ok, I'll close for now....peace all.
Ya know first immpressions are the hardest, they can't be changed. But with time all things change. I had a bad first immpressions. I felt In Search was looking down her nose at us when she stated " If that's all you have to offer" I've heard it all before, yadayada". That pushed one of my no no buttons. I saw no response from her when the ladies offered help, only when she thought teepi was a man and laid it on how wonderful she thougth HE was. That's where I was coming from. That's how she presented herself to me. Now I hear how wonderfully complete she is and am wondering why she would need a mentor if she already was so fulfilled. I'm getting mixed singals here. Now she's taken it a step further and opened a new thread about weather it's right or wrong to ask for a Mentor, what is that all about. Is she fucking with me. I'm trying to be fair, but don't fuck with me in MY Garden I will excort you to the gate. Shameless Heifer
I do appreciate all of you here that were giving love and support on both "sides". We are all part of the same Diamond, we are each a sparkling facet that makes the jewel shine. Brightest Blessings sh
Good Morning Carol as always it's nice to see you face.. I'm trying to get past this..I did move IN search's poll to gurus as it agravated me like a bur under my saddle. But I did think it was more apropreate place for it as that is what she was looking for, I think. I also think she may have created the poll to teach me a lesson, as a get back or perhaps a challenge.. I'm not trying to run anyone off, but I'm not gonna be put down at my own kitchen table. Not everyone is gonna agree 100% of the time. We all have somethng to offer, lets just put this in the past and forgetaboutit. Emotions flare and then subside like the tide, we can only hold on as we ride out the wave. Brightest Blessings to ALL sh
no carol I have not found the howdy thread yet.. and I did look.. I may not be a welcoming sight in some threads..
I found it, in introduce yourself, why didn't you say that silly.. took me two days to figure it out....lol Well in any case thanks for the invite and the nice words. I don't know if everyone is awear of this or not, or even care ( I know some do) But Pride is dying and we are very close to the end of his life here with us ( my faimly). I can't tell you all how fast time goes by. How little time we really have here on this earthly plane. I know he will be in the Light soon and his new journey will begin. This however does not fill the emptiness that we will all feel when he joins Great Spirit in the Happy Hunting Ground. Great Spirit will be happy to see Pride as he enters, Pride will be happy to see Great Spirit too, but we shall mourn the loss of a great man/father/husband/brother, a kind and giving soul who did good in his lifetime. He will reap his reward on the other side and hold a place for us upon our arrival and we shall be reunited in Great Spirit. In the knowing of this I have a heavy heart, I want to scream out to Creator.. NO!! No More!! As I beat my chest with my fists to make my heart stop hurting. In this I grow short with my "self" and it may spill out on others. If I have hurt anyones feelings I am sorry and I will spend hours beating myself up for it when it's all said and done. I do not apologise for what I said but perhaps the way I said it. At times in our lives we grow weary from the constant struggle to be perfect in an imperfect society. The strife seems neverending and the burden of trying to do right all the time becomes overwhelming. We become cynical and even stuborn in our veiws. We use to be spirits trying to be human, now we are humans trying to find our spirit, funny how change comes about and the lessons we draw from them. I want to thank you all for opening me back up and out of the dismal mind set I was in. I am blessed to be part of all of you. You help me find my higher self and get above these obsitcals I set before myself as I dwell in selfdoubt. I think we all feel the helplessness of not being able to change the inevitable(sp). I think it affects us in strange ways. It kinda resembles building up a front to be brave? To be strong and not show weakness when you just want to collaps on the floor and go to sleep till it's all over. Does that leave us open to other identies or strenghts taking over playing the hard case so the softer side can take care of self and later be one with strenght again. In my ramblings I find the questions I ask, in the responce I find the truths of self. Life is truly a learning experience for all of us. We grow as we learn. We have to be able to be the change, in ourselves to grow further. Thank you all for the changes you helped me make in my self. I love you all. Grow on. sh
I am so sorry to hear that sister. I was thinking about Pride just the other day, and should be ashamed of myself for not asking you how he's doing. I know it has all taken a toll on you. May peace be with Pride and his family and friends during this time. I will be sure to keep you all in my prayers. I love ya mama.
Sweet Lee Ann, thank you for the love. Caring and sharing is what is all boils down to. Faith in a new and better way comes each year as we grow closer in spirit. I know you are a caring and loving woman, it's ok not to remember everything. It's where you heart is that counts. I know where your heart is. I know too that sometimes life gets in the way of things we mean to do. There's no worries, Pride feels the loving energy that is sent to him. He is in good spirits and trying to stay positive. I hope you are getting past the events that caused you suffering. Wishing you and the kids a Blessed Christmas Spirit. Love ya too Gal. Mary
I saw your post over in the personnal area Mary, about Pride. I still have the talisman I painted last year of the Indian...I think of him all the time as it is still above my work area. My views on death and dying are somewhat out of the "norm" and I may seem strange in my beliefs on the subject. So I won't go into that here. But my prayers are with him and his family, I pray that the transition will be an easy one and that his family will see the healing that is there for all in his suffering. Lee Ann...good to see you. I have not been back for very long, but I have missed you. At least your drink didn't shoot out cha nose!!!
Ouch, I had a fruit dacquri shoot out my nose before, I blew out chunks of bananna, orange and pineapple all day and it weren't purddy. ( I still swear, I never told tho teepi, and what DID larry say when you told him, i'm dying to hear )