Living without money

the idea of trading for things is good when everyone has a valuable skill. it would be very tough to go back to those days now. and can you imagine 9 million new yorkers having to leave the city because lets face it there is no food to hunt there except for rats.
some people say that trading would cause an even bigger difference in wealth than there already is. i dont know if thats true but if you live in an area with only one cattle farmer he pretty much asks for however many chickens he wants for a cow.

i had some other points to make but this was the last thing i read on the thread.

 

Suelo isn't trying to convert everyone (IMO). He's merely putting his ideas out there, and suggesting for some people living without money can be a better way of life. What you say about New York is true. But I'm sure there are more than a few people in The Big Apple that long for a less stressful and more compassionate way to live. And they would be willing to move to a much smaller city. It's not where you live, but how you live.

QP

 

that's a very interesting story! i know of a few kids who travel around, sleep where ever they feel tired. although i believe one or two of them has a LINK card and buys food with that. then they depend on the kindness of other people for certain things. public domains makes it possible for them to have certain luxuries. they don't stay in homeless shelters, they prefer to sleep under the stars. i think its awesome, i would love to join them.
i'm not particularly materialistic either, but there are some things i'd like to buy, and certain things i'd like to surround myself with, that cost money.
and so, i shall include myself in the rat race as little as possible.

 

What a fantastic idea and man!

I guess anything is possible if you truely put your mind to it.

I am curious as to what his cave looks like. The taxman must hate him hahahaha.

 

Suelo has stayed at several communes where families live. They grow their own food, and help to support one another. He is no hermit hiding from the world in his dark little cave. He interacts with people on a regular basis, and does volunteer work for all sorts of groups and organizations. He travels the globe by foot, bike, or hitchhiking, etc. He's a very active dude.

QP

 

I have read his story before when I was doing my own research into living without money. I do plan, in the future once my child(ren) is fully grown and flying the nest, to do something sort of like this. I actually want to build my house out of recycled materials, grow all of my own food, use solar power etc, and eventually just leave the grid. I probably will not go completely without money, but earn just enough to buy the bare essentials I need, one main thing for me is that I do not want to become tied down by a mortgage or any other form of debt, which is why I want to build my own house.

I think its an awesome way of living, just imagine how free he must feel, able to live without worry of bills coming through, getting into debt or needed to fork out cash to spend on crap that needs repairing or replacing. I reckon if everyone took small steps towards a money-less future, like less consuming of items we dont actually need, growing all or most of our own food etc, then already the world would be a much better place to live in. Right now, we are headed in the opposite direction.

 

This is what I think about when this kind of subject comes up. I still think that it would be possible with kids involved but a lot harder and likely some money would have to be involved.. a lot of people say 'being a parent is so expensive' but its not really, parenting is free, its just all the extra added stuff that everyone buys that costs money. Kids wouldn't eveb think of toys, video games, computers etc, think how much fun they could have with free roam of the world, learning new skills, making things from nothing, imagination would be crazy with ideas and not blocked out by tv shows. Breastfeeding is free and healthier, investing (or eveb making) cloth nappies/diapers would save hundreds of pounds, and imo the need for things like bouncy chairs, pushchairs, even highchairs and cribs/cots, is only a need that we invented. Our ancestors did it, but I do agree with you on that you become responsible for more than just your own life and the descisions you make with anything will affect the whole family and not just you.

Then again, what does being secure really mean? I think its subjective to each individual. I feel secure and I have a child, but I also do not own a house and could be told to leave at any moment, very minimal savings just for emergencies, and most of my daughters stuff is hand made, or even self made (we were in the woods and found a ribbon so tied it onto a stick, hours of fun)

 

You're such a babe, you would have no problem living without money. I'd be the first in line to be your sugar daddy. I checked your other pics in your photo albums. I'm sure you're having a great life.

 

i like doing things myself. taking money from other people with the concept of them just giving me shit sets my teeth on edge. nothing in life comes free. i know what people want. i'm more than that.

that being said, the piece of shit in my head wants to take advantage of things like that. but still, the real me doesn't wanna be that way.

 

Yeah, there’s lots of young people where I live now that don’t have their own place to live, but absolutely don’t think of themselves as homeless.

They choose to live as they do: sleeping in doorways, eating at soup kitchens, and hanging out at the public library where they can read and use the computers, plus stay warm and dry (in the winter) and cool off (during the summer).

Most are quite creative. A lot of singing and guitar playing outside the library. And they sell their paintings and drawings. I think it’s really cool. They remind me of the first hippies that crossed the country to arrive in San Francisco during the 1960s.

QP

 

In reality, everything is free, it's just that capitalists put a price on things and most everyone else goes along with it. Living without money IS getting everything for free.

A wise sage once said, "Consider the birds, they neither reap nor toil, yet God feeds them. And you are worth more than the birds."

The only animal on the planet that uses money is humans. All the other animals and plants are smarter than that.

I was just giving you a compliment. Sorry I set your teeth on edge.

Beauty is only skin deep.

 

I'm with you, MamaPeace. Small steps lead to a better world to live in. I no longer buy books (just borrow them from the public library). This helps to save a tree or two. And I have not gone to a theatre (or bought a DVD) in eight years. The library has so many great movies on DVD, etc. I might have to wait 6 months or so - to see the new movies. But it's worth the wait.

All my clothes are second hand. I actually like them better than new and expensive stuff. They're more comfortable to wear. Hell, even my computer only cost me $100. It's old and a bit slow, but so am I.

QP

P.S. Also, I'm trying to get used to the idea of using the computers at the library, and giving my own to Free Geek. I've only kept my computer as long as I have, because I tend to be a night owl, and the library closes so early.