Living organ donations?

Uhhhh, nope. Not the musical kind, nothing steampunk or steam powered, nothing like that at all. Human organs.

Has anyone here ever done something like that or known someone that has? I've been thinking about this for several years, off and on, for whatever reason I keep setting it aside. And once again it comes to mind.

I am thinking donating, but I also saw in my Google search that there's a market for that stuff? So I'm like "WHOA! Duuuude....nuh uh!" In the previous I'm uncertain what it's like or what I have to pay to donate. In the latter I'd be scared the wouldn't pay me, just give me the ax and take what they want.

I'm ig'nernt about this stuff. Help!

 

There's a black market. I can get you a toe dude.

 

Toe dude? I don't need any toes, and mine are off limits (I earned my toe jam!).

 

With green nail polish.

 

ewwwww! lol!

 

My cousin donated a kidney to her estranged father about 10 years ago. He is diabetic and his failed. It is fortunate that he had a better daughter than he deserves.

 

I was thinking about this a couple of days ago.
It was discussed that a relative of mine might need a kidney transplant. (or was it liver - I get confused! Prob kidney) Someone nearly 70. Naturally, the discussion developed concerning donors.

There were a couple of key facts. 1stly this person would have caused any kidney damage themselves - it would have been caused by diabetes caused by chronically bad (ie over-) eating.

2ndly, the person didn't need a transplant at all. They'd just been sold a lot of bullshit by clueless doctors and pathologically corrupt drug companies. I recommended a decent doctor, and the shit was sorted out. Without anyone else being pressured into losing body parts.

There were serious ethical issues I thought. If you abuse your own body and are old, its signifcantly harder to justify a younger, health conscious person suffering.
Just my view..

 

there are many cases where the persons choices have no bearing in needing a transplant. Many people are born with diabetes, Hep C causes liver cancer and can be contracted accidentally and this is just a short list.

If it were someone I actually cared about and something I could do without sure. (kidney is one, donating a lob of the liver another - livers do regenerate)

would not even attempt for pay though, too shady

 

Keep your organs dude. No purpose in donating them.

Organovo is developing 3D printed organ transplants that are fully functional.

 

ATTEnTION:
Do NOT check off on your ID that you are an organ donor!!!

I have talked to multiple paramedics that have told me they have had people they could have saved but they see they are an organ donor and let them pass on purpose to give their organs away. Big money for hospitals and dont let yourself get tricked.

3-D printers are the way to go.

 

unlike many if not most people I am unafraid of dying, it is merely going to be a part of my life.

I have a health directive and a DNR, I don't plan on lingering

 

"While the rumor would appear to confirm the belief that physicians involved in harvesting organs will happily sacrifice one patient in their efforts to secure parts for others, such belief overlooks one particular facet of this conjecture: Doctors who fail to provide their best medical care to their patients can and will be sued. As professional healers, they are held to a higher legal "standard of care" than is the average person and thus aren't afforded the luxury in life or death situations of not attempting to do all in their power to save those whose lives hang in the balance. Additionally, in those instances where patients died, doctors who did decide to scale back care could well be charged with homicide.

Myth: If emergency room doctors know you're an organ donor, they won't work as hard to save you.

Fact: If you are sick or injured and admitted to the hospital, the number one priority is to save your life. Organ donation can only be considered after brain death has been declared by a physician. Many states have adopted legislation allowing individuals to legally designate their wish to be a donor should brain death occur, although in many states Organ Procurement Organizations also require consent from the donor's family.

Not everyone who dies in an emergency room is a viable candidate for organ donation. When it comes to harvesting transplantable material, time is so very often of the essence. Proper removal, storage, and shipment of such organs can take place only within a very limited window of opportunity. For this reason, those who have been pronounced brain dead and are on ventilators make the best candidates. That's why organ donors are usually accident victims with severe head injuries or people who have suffered catastrophic brain damage from natural causes such as a stroke."
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/medical/emergent/donor.asp#6kAv0VpwJdre0wP6.99


I have a donor sticker on my ID. I heard that it will get me into the best clubs and VIP sections in the after life..

 

i don't think dead organs would be very useful to donate.

 

This person had chronic diabetes due to chronic over-eating. And was 35 yrs old than those who might/might not be donating.
Tho its not widely discussed you have to wonder about the potential health effects/risks for those who are donors.

As it was, it was all academic. Corrupt drug companies and useless doctors had caused the whole kidney failure situation by maltreatment.

Gotta say, I have similar concerns. Most doctors don't see death as a big issue. They often get it wrong, and pull the plug on people who SHOULD survive.

There's also a lot of 3rd world doctors about. And unfortunately many of them take to corruption like a duck to water. As do the drug cos, and some hospital managers. BTW I know the regulators of GB hospitals... not exactly whiter than whiter.

The sad part is that sometimes, someone IS beyond treatment. And the best thing IS to use their organs to save another. Which is right on balance? I dont know, it depends on the individual case.

 

Also, forgot to ask.. when exactly did you talk to these paramedics? So you just approached them and they admitted to letting people that are organ donors just die?.. Hard to believe.

 

I bought stock in the 3D-printing Organ company in belief that it will do well. Seems like 3D printed organ transplants are the way of the future.

 

But doctors are exposed to death all day every day. A patient dying, even a healthy one, doesn't mean that much to them.

The latest research discoveries, a big payday from a drug company, saving someone they've got a wager on, this is what gives them a boner.

There's always grey areas in medicine. Its hard to prove a doctor is "completely wrong", even when he is.

I've met some total sleazebags who are doctors, really evil ones infact.
Its very rare indeed for legal action to succeed against a doctor.

Its unlikely they'd let an otherwise healthy donor die. But just imagine if the case is towards a "grey area". Who's to say it couldn't tip the balance for ONE doctor.

(I'm not taking sides, because we might all benefit from being a recipient, just saying how things might happen..)

 

In most countries there is a recipient list that is not controlled by any one doctor or hospital and is instead based upon critical need of organ transplant. There are panels who review the needs and then distribute the organs based upon criteria.

I personally can not donate as there are medical reasons which exclude me from doing so. If it were possible to do so, I would in the hope that it would give someone a shot at longer life. Both of my children have already designated it on their licences. I admire them for doing so. No greater gift can be given.

 

Yes, but the 1st big question is "Will this person survive? Can we take his organs?" The answer to the question "will he survive" is hardly ever challenged after a death.

I know people who do these investigations. Medicine is a very sleazy "business". And I'm talking Britain 1st and foremost. I'm sure its even worse in the US where everything is about the $$$$.

Medicine is also quite a small world amongst the snrs. A top private consultant may be very senior in a healthcare trust, or a private hospital group. Networks form just like in other sectors. One person has some sleaze on another and promotes him into lesser positions of power.

All sorts of shit goes on. Surgeons who should have been struck off many years ago remain in positions of power etc etc. There have been numerous scandals in Britain recently. Many more, covered up.

Many so called "top" doctors are 3rd world foreigners who have no qualms about trading in organs. Someone could be tested for compatib while they were still alive, and the public would be none the wiser.

Having said all this, I'm not saying someone shouldnt be a donor. I mean it could all save their own life. Just to be aware that not all doctors/instutions are "salt of the Earth" characters.

 

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