Topnotch I am absolutely positive that Shulgin was talking about oral administration. He never lists any insuffulated doses or accounts b/c that is not the way these drugs are meant to be taken. I have known of people that will not go higher than 12mg of 2ce, that is a perfect dose for them. The PiHKAL listed dose range for 2ce is 10mg-20mg orally.
I would probably agree with TopNotchStoner and consider LSD dropped on shrooms to be a 'hybrid' but that is all. Even then it isn't really a hybrid though.... And also since this thread is for 2C's, I was wondering what is the differences between 2C-T-2, T-7, and T-21? I really only hear much about T-7.
I have had a chance to try a few of the 2C-X family. First was 2c-t-2. 20 mg. little discomfort but body was heavy. some slight distortion in visuals ex.(tracers and shifting). Long onset for me almost 2hrs. I enjoyed it very much. Second was 2c-i. 15mg. on an empty stomach so it was a pretty quick onset considering that others took longer. maybe 20 minutes to first feeling of nausea ( i usually get this with an empty stomach). Beautiful color patterns and was able to hit the botanical gardens without any issues with the social surroundings. Had a blast going throughout the park that day. Will be partaking in the 2c-c journey this weekend, I cant wait; will let you guys know how it went.
There was a study done with mushrooms and synthetic chemicals placed onto the spores to create 4-ho-*** compound within the mushrooms its self. Natures chemistry... link is here http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/blg/index.html Update::: SWIM just took 2c-c @ 19:59 best regards, dynamickid
one hour into it and SWIM has the best body buzz right now. Maybe SWIM shouldn't have eaten dinner, but a cant stop feeling so good!!!!
Yea its weird. hour three and still feeling the same body buzz. took another 10 mg too, just to see if it would push me through.....nothing yet
I would be interested to see what feeding shrooms 5meo-dmt would do, presumably shrooms containing 5meo,4ho-dmt which as far as I know has never been synthed. BTW 2c-c is one of the few I haven't got to try. One of these days...
4-HO-DMT is Psilocin. It's already in them. That's pretty strange though. Imagine 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-MiPT, etc in shrooms
Well a new day and my experience was neutral. Next time fasting will be a must. The 2c-* family has always been something that the first time was just slightly off baseline. will increase initial dose to 40mg and see what happens then. Other than that i was SUPER relaxed for the most part easily able to sleep, but was so alert in my sleep that the slightest thing would instantly wake me. dreams were somewhat colorful, but only mild tracers earlier in the night. Had some erotic vibes but was to relaxed to act upon them. I will be addressing a higher dose in a few days.. WORK calls.
Sorry i'am an old K user not really aware of other stuf... are these names for the same produt or is it question of names of different products ?
Different but chemically closely related drugs, all somewhat similar to mescaline in structure. That is the 2c stuff. 4ho-whatever are close to shrooms.
Yes but I'm talking about a drug with a meo group at the 5 position in addition to the basic psilocin structure.
^I think Dr. Shulgin tried without success to make it, but thought shrooms might be able to pull it off.