klondike bar: you don't need to use the whole bottle of water. just dissolve the 2ce in a couple sips worth of water (bottled or tap, as long as you ingest it immediately after mixing - to avoid degradation by the chlorine). i don't chug it, but i don't really take my time drinking it either. down the hatch in a couple of sips. and to answer your earlier question: 13 mg would make you both trip, it's just a question of how hard. if it's your first time with 2ce (sounds like it is) 20 mg might be too much. i took 12 my first time and was completely satisfied. i've now eaten it 5 times, and never went higher than 20 mg. i felt that i'd eaten "the perfect amount" each time.
i agree with porkstock my 1st 2ce trip was at 13mg and it was an amazing experience i havent gone over 22mg and the one time i hit 22 mg i was in hell for a few hours, it all depends on the person and the set. if you plan on living for a decent amount of time there will always be another chance to up the dose
my advice would be to take the low dose and enjoy it for what it is. take a higher dose the next time you trip if you want. supplementing can be kinda a waste.
Yeah. Psychs have to come up and peak when your brain isn't expecting it so its sharp and intense, if you redose your brain knows what to expect and the experience is greatly diminished.
hm. thing is ill have about 25mg of substance. many reports suggest 20-25mg as ideal others have difficulties at a dose of 11-15mg i dont really want to consume 15mg, and have dosed too little, and yet not have enough for a nother day's dose...(unless combined with a DOC trip)
do 10 one day, and 15 another time. or split it in half and share with a friend. or if you really think you're up for it, eat it all at once. you might very well have a rough trip, but you most likely won't die.
You won't even come close to dying with 25mg's, so if you think you can handle a potentially earth shattering trip, go for it. Nothing sucks more than dosing a psychedelic and having not dosed enough.
2C's are weird. Some people trip balls at 15mg, and some people need 25mg's to trip nicely. I've done up to 40mg's and still didn't lose my mind. Brain chemistry. If you're sensitive to other psychedelics, start with 10 or 15.
do you want to lose your mind? i did an eyeballed dose one time (probably less than or equal to 20 mg - stupid i know, don't try this at home kids) and shit got pretty intense for awhile. i think it was the only time i smoked weed on 2ce as well, so that may have had something to do with it. but that was the only trip on anything where i thought (halfway, for a few minutes) that i might never be normal again.
I dont mind being blown out of my mind. unfortunately though, ive tripped too heavily on shrooms before and had a devestatingly bad trip that i have absolutely no desire to ever repeat.
jus placed an order for some 2c-i pretty stoked to get it. and ordered a nice new skeezy! so neway im thinkin about 20mg for the first time. i tried t7 about 3 weeks ago and dosed 25mg and it was jus right. so based on that do u guys think 20mg of 2c-i is a good dose? on erowid 25 for t7 and 20 for the i are right on heavy and that seemed to be where the trip was.
i think 30 is just right for the t-7. as for the 2c-i 16mg gave very minor effects and 34mg was enough