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Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by ashblossom789, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. OldTroll

    OldTroll Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know whether the '60s were a revolution or not .... but we lost our innocence in the early part of the decade .... and the hippies certainly changed the world at the end of the decade.

    The day the music died: Miss American Pie!

    Watch the video .... don't just listen to the lyrics ....

    I cry.
     
  2. caliente

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    I don't think there's any doubt that it was a "revolution".

    It seems obvious to me that the means of production most certainly have changed. The advances in computing and automation ability continued the shift from an agrarian to an industrial to an information economy. That wasn't a result of the hippie movement per se, but you could make a case that Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were early hippies. They just directed their counter-culture tendencies into a different direction.
     
  3. Cherea

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    That's a change in the means of production, not a change in man's relationship to it.

    Plus, you're playing fast and loose with chronology. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs became preeminent about 2 decades after the period under discussion.
     
  4. OldTroll

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    Absolutely dead on Ms.Caliente!

    Suggested reading for others: "fire in the valley: the making of the personal computer" by Michael Swaine and Paul Freiberger

    Gary Kildahl, Gates, Jobs, and Paul Allen changed the world.
     
  5. caliente

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    That's a change in the means of production, not a change in man's relationship to it.

    Well, I guess I don't understand what you're getting at. So I'll pass on this.

    Plus, you're playing fast and loose with chronology. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs became preeminent about 2 decades after the period under discussion.

    No, I don't think so. Bill Gates formed Microsoft in the early 1970's, if I remember correctly.
     
  6. caliente

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    Gary Kildahl, Gates, Jobs, and Paul Allen changed the world

    I used to have a little poster that I hung up for the programmers in our company ... it said something like ... "Be nice to nerds. Someday you'll be working for one of them."

    It's true, too.
     
  7. OldTroll

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    but so did John, Paul, George, and Ringo!

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  8. caliente

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    My mother loves to tell this story ...

    She happened to be in New York when the Beatles landed in 1964 to appear on Ed Sullivan. Nine months and one day later, I was born. Coincidence?? .. ;)

    I do look like Paul McCartney.
     
  9. OldTroll

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    Now I really do want us to be married!
     
  10. caliente

    caliente Senior Member

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    *looking at you suspiciously*

    What have you been drinking???
     
  11. OldTroll

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    Found this little piece of paper in my desk drawer .... looked like the Daffy Duck here ..... thick paper like an ink blotter .... laid it on my tongue for a few moments and then ate it ...

    [​IMG]

    .... I love the way your picture sounds!
     
  12. caliente

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    Found this little piece of paper in my desk drawer

    Who's the guy in the lower right-hand corner? He looks like the guy in My Favorite Martian.
     

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