Liberals or Conservatives?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Anaconda man, Feb 10, 2006.

  1. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

    Messages:
    1,566
    Likes Received:
    0
    and if that happens, I will gladly join an anarchist resistance group thankoovery much. I read literature both sides of the line, I just happen to believe that other people are just as important as myself.
     
  2. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,929
    Likes Received:
    5
    That's exactly why the foster system as you call it, should be upgraded.

    And yes, the government raising loyal soldiers and government officials would greatly benefit the country as a whole.

    One of the reasons I come back to this site is because I won't get banned for voicing my opinion, and I appreciate that, I really do.

    I am totally against censorship, political correctness or what the liberals established here in Canada, Hate Crime policy.

    If you were to actually read Mussolini's Fascist Doctrine, true Fascism, not Nazism which is a completely tiwsted take on Fascism, you'd understand that Fascism is all about NATIONAL UNITY.

    Propaganda is always going to exist, I'm sure you can see that.

    Fascism would of course utlize propaganda but in a Fascist state people would not be thrown in prison for writting against Fascism with logical reasoning, people would however be thrown in for publicly protesting, for any issue, because protesting is causing public unrest.

    Just do me a favour and read Mussolini's Fascist Doctrine.

    I've read John Locke's Two Treatise of Government.

    So how bout it?
     
  3. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,929
    Likes Received:
    5
    Some are, not everyone is equal, should everyone have equal rights? To begin with yes, but if an individual harms another they should be punished for it.

    I can respect a communist a liberal or a pacifist, I can, but I can hate them to the bone.

    I know several liberals I would love to have on my side, but they're pretty much gone in terms of their beliefs, and once that happens you can't do anything.
     
  4. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

    Messages:
    1,751
    Likes Received:
    4
    what's wrong with not wanting war and violence?
    What's wrong with people expressing themselves?
    What's wrong with two men or two women loving each other and wanting to be bonded as one?
    What's wrong with smoking a plant?
    What's wrong with getting rid of victim-less crimes?
    What's wrong with freedom?
     
  5. beoworg

    beoworg Member

    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    Classical laissez-faire capitalist liberal?
     
  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    Messages:
    27,693
    Likes Received:
    4,504
    i think both labels are completely hypicritical. conservatives arn't about conserving anything, and liberals, well, almost everyone seems to deny being one, so its hard to tell. i call myself a liberal with pride, but what the hell do i know.

    i do think infrastructure and 'welfare' are the only reasons to have any government of any kind, though its our lack of self dicipline collectively, that brings them into existence primarily. i mean people get togather to help each other out, and governments are an extention of that and serve no useful purpose unless they facilitate it.

    also i think narrowing anyone's perceptions to what the narrowest among them are familiar with is 'just plain wrong'. i mean for one thing, it robs everyone even of the most basic and fundimental reality, of having the faintest notion of the tremendous size diversity of the real univierse, even the diversity of life and our dependence on that diversity right here on earth too.

    i mean what is being called conservatism is fundimentally dishonesty. even if some people seem to think lying to themselves is more fun then creating beauty, which is a contention and a position i've never quite gotten close to fully understanding.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  7. SpreadneckGA

    SpreadneckGA Member

    Messages:
    468
    Likes Received:
    0
    depends on the issue
     
  8. The Scribe

    The Scribe Member

    Messages:
    567
    Likes Received:
    4
    I am a liberal in that I see little moral significance to the distribution of wealth and income, and feel that governmental efforts to reduce inequality can be desirable.

    I am a conservative in that I am pessimistic about human nature and see value in tradition.

    Unfortunately, what passes for "conservatism" in the United States is often little more than hatred for taxes, love of guns, and intolerance of other points of view. In addition, "conservatives" like for the U.S. military to blow up things and kill people in the Third World.
     
  9. Driftwood Gypsy

    Driftwood Gypsy Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    140
    Napolean was short.
     
  10. Lolli

    Lolli Visitor

    i am leaning towards communism more & more
     
  11. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    34,770
    Likes Received:
    16,580
    This Maximus is a detestable human being.People like him are why Unions were formed to protect the members,working people that do the actual work, from being ground into dust working for shit humans that have no conscience whatsoever.They'll move their companies out of this country,leaving millions of us hanging out to dry,because they don't actually care about the USA--only profits.It's people like him that would deny others the right to speak openly about anything,including the government,which is guaranteed by our constitution. In my opinion,it's people like him---conservatives--that would kill anyone that crossed them in their insatiable drive for money and control over people. JFK,RFK,MLK. They'll take all the benefits of government office-ie:health care,(near unlimited choices for them) and have no shame in voting to deny the same thing for us,the citizens. Since the conservatives have most of the money already,they want to make god-damned sure we don't get much of it. They want the laws to favor the bankers the oil companies ,big pharma,military contractors, and agriculture because those are the ones that buy them outright.They want us to shut the fuck up ,go to work for shit wages and mind our own business. They fancy themselves quite a bit better than the rest of us and if more like this fucken moron get power---you damn right there'll be some repercussions. I don't like 'em and that's the way it is. I don't get why any WORKING person would EVER vote republican ,which is exactly a vote against their own interests.Somebody will whine,well,the rich already pay more taxes.Thats good--they get more benefits out of this capitalist society than any of us will ever see.-------
     
  12. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    34,770
    Likes Received:
    16,580
    Short term the democrats are better for the rights of the downtrodden,but they're bought and sold too.
     
  13. vkk

    vkk Member

    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    They both suck.
     
  14. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,313
    Likes Received:
    34
    Yeah, let's share everything equally, divide by 6,700,000,000. Non-workers of the world unite, and demand your fair share.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice