Liberals or Conservatives?

Socialism forever, Neoconservatism never!

 

I voted liberal on whim, because I guess thats what im used to.

But the only people who really have it right are living in grass huts in the amazon and feeding on bananas and fish.

 

Either your dance'n around it or you didn't catch what I'm getting at.

There is no universal standared of "people" everything verys and everyone has a diffrent politcal out look.

Marx and Lennon both had good ideas however they are simply Idealistic dreams. They are no more Realistic then my Anarchist views. We as humaninty will probley never beable to leave the death trap we are in now. Atleast not while we are alive. The world has been known and its a Global Community no longer provencies we can goveren with ease. For any system to work the world would have to accept it now. And I don't see that happen'n anytime soon.

 

We try to over complicate things...makes you wonder if they laugh at us.

 

Also as far as the greed goes. Look at Soviet Russia and how well socilism/communism worked out their. Greed runs humanity.

 

the USSR had so many problems, all of which could be fixed. It was too centralized which helped stalin in his rise to power, well, look at luxemburgs writings of the federalized communist system. it goes on..

 

the government can be used to help and educate people, which will inspire chanfe.

 

Government Is man made slavery. It has the possiblity to educate but It dosen't have the will. There is a diffrence between "It can" and "It will". Right now "It won't" I refuse to support any form of goverment that will promote uncessery violance. Marx considered what he wrote communism. I don't support the America's goverment setup. I'll hardly support a form where the land and everything is owned by the goverment. Communsim dosen't make everyone equal. If everyone was equal why have a government body run things? That was my idealistic rant. Now for the reality of it. In a world of govrenments we need politicans and the like. The "common people" can't run a economy or diplomaticly get out of a war. "But state paid schools. health care etc etc etc" Bah look at public schools and tell me a state supported school system and health care could work out.

Alot of things work out Idealy however it will not work realisticly.

 

woah woah, you made no sense there... communism isnt state owned capitalism, as you seem to think it is...



and do you think that education and health is a privelege of the rich?

 

yes government is man made slavery, but letting little green peices of paper get away with murder isn't freedom either. and we wouldn't be creating a market for it to exist if more of us did our real honest objective homework when it comes to choosing priorities. comfort zone doesn't exist without infrastructure so take your pick.

personaly i prefer to see the ecological harmony and actualy provision of service of infrastructure maximized instead of the glorification of accumulation or the romantic excitement of aggressiveness, which ultimately costs us our eyes and teeth and gratifys nothing.

i also don't see hierarchy as enhierent to social organization nor any sort of moral mandate for it. rather it exists as a fait accomply, in a niche created for it by the statistical conjunction poorly thought out priorities.

idiologies, economic theories, even the chauvanism of beliefs, are all a smoke screens which prevent a sufficient majority of people from seeing and understanding this.

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First off I suggest you read up on communism. It basicly means Goverment controlled economy.

For example
Instead of working for Mcdonalds your working for Bush and Dick and they don't pay you but they give a crappy apartment and some crappy food.

and as for as health and education

I was getting at the fact that public education is the tool of the devil. Plus I don't want to be worked on by a Doctor who gets paid the same as the trashman because "everyone is equal" To qoute Mr. Orwell more or less "all animals are equal! but some a more equal than others!"

Here is the main diffrence you argue idealistic communism I'm arguing real communism.

 

Idealy everything works realisticaly it all falls to the Greed of man. Sad isn't it?

 

Sorry mate, true communism is actually supposed to be little or no government, where the business and industry is either owned by the community or the workers, and trust me, I'm the total anti-communist/socialist, I'm just giving the true meaning.

 

Screw socialism, neo-cons too, but more importantly socialism.

 

Actually, communism is the exact opposite of that. You are swallowing the same lie that the communists fall for. There is no such thing as "true communism." There is only applied communism, and it's always fascistic in nature.

You cannot have a communist system without totalitarian government control.

Communism is monopoly capitalism in the hands of an elite few. It's simply sold to the masses as something idealistic and good. The way it's sold to the masses is far different from what it really is, which is a tool to overthrow and enslave humanity - nothing more.

 

That is EXACTLY what communism is.

 

Why must people insist on arguing "ideal communism" when everyone else is arguing real communism? The industry isn't owned by people!

 

no, you argue your own distored idea of communism that is basically state ran capitalism. I've read lots on it, i think you may need to be the one who needs to do some reading

 

No, I think you do.