How do you explain the fact that dragons are found in almost every cutlure? Big Lizards that breathe fire. There is proof. But you don't care because that'd mean you could be wrong...
I would hardly call that proof...I believe in geology over cultural myths. There is no point in arguing with you or campbell or anyone else who is a bible literalist. Tell me, what dinosaur breathed fire?
Tell me, were the dinosaurs we've found all that ever existed? There were once scorch marks found on a skull of a Parasaurolophus, however, this doesn't necessarily mean it breathed fire. Some creatures can actually 'spit' fire...the bombardier beetle, for instance. The dinosaur could have spit out some gas or toxin that caught flame, what speaks against it?
Nothing speaks for it is really the issue. Plus, if you are such a firm believer in the literal interpretation of the bible, woudn't dinosaurs have had to existed within the 5,000 years that biblical scientists claim that the Earth has been around? How can you even believe in dinosaurs with that mindset?!
9,000 years. Yes, I believe they were there within 9,000 years. But certainly not in the last 5,000 years.
hahahahahahhahaha hahahahahhsahahahahahahahaha 9,0000 years... see there really is no point in arguing. Carry on. the grand canyon eroded within 9,000 years, continental drift from one land mass within 9,000 years. I've held spear points in my hand from at least 10,000 years ago...the last ice age. Whatever. If you ignore every single piece of scientific evidence then you can make up whatever you want. So this is how children of hippies rebel.
I don't really care much for these labels. I believe in God, and Christ, among others. If you classify a 'Christian' as one who is living in cloud cuckoo land as you seem to be with this dinosaur stuff, then I can assure you that under such a definition, I'm certainly not a 'Christian'. To accept lies and nonsense which is put about by a bunch of idiot fanatics and lunatics doesn't make you a Christian. To propagate lies about the true age of the earth, and the sequence in which various species have appeared and disappeared doesn't make you a Christian. Christ said, I believe. 'seek the truth', not some half baked pack of self deluding bullshit.
Good post BlackBill, she seems to view Christianity as some team sport where you didn't make the cut. Evolutionary trends, geologic age of the Earth, and genetics are not incompatible with what intelligent Christians believe. Just because these trends and scientific processes DO exist, and they do, does not mean there is no god, and does not have any bearing on whther Christ was real or not. I don't dislike Christian values, but people like these, with their idiotic ideas and refusal to accept even the most basic scientific facts, turn me agains the whole religion. I can't help but start to view them as the enemy,and thats too bad because i agree with many of the tenets of Christianity. Its hard for me to understand how someone can be this extreme on the Christian side, yet not comprehend Islamic fundamentalismon the other side. The two deserve each other in my opinion. I've even talked to people who were regular church goers in protestant churches who were forced out by these types of people for not agreeing with their extreme viewpoints....so much for Christian tolerance and understanding.....Sane christians are losing their religion.
Thanks seamonster. I agree with your points. I think that fundamentalism, in whatever religion, is the problem. These people have problems with the knowledge science has given us - I can't understand their attitude. They'd be happier on a flat earth I think. They say they believe in God and the gifts of the Spirit, but they can't see how science is one such gift. Meantime, they fail totally to embody the very values that as you say make Christianity attractive. It is a sad state of affairs. RYU is just a kid - perhaps in time there will come some experience to make her question these views of hers. But it is a bit depressing to find young people, who presumably think they are 'hippies' in some sense holding these extreme and narrow views. I guess to some, 'hippie' is just a style - I always thought there was something in there about a new consciousness..... *peace*
Atlantis then? a Atlantis sorty was found in almost every ancient culture...the greek to the Mayans...
The difference is that Christians don't kill people. Those things are NOT compatible with the Bible, therefore a Christian doesn't believe in those things. There is Absolutely no real proof for evolution. Have you ever witnessed evolution in the Lab? Now don't confuse it with natural selection. Many of the evolutionary claims base themselves on a jaw, and often some other bone, and that's it. No full skelatons. Just some bone and a jaw, and that's it. Ever heard of the Nebraska man? People found a tooth, and created a whole human out of it. To their surprise it was a pig's tooth...
Under Christian I see somebody who believes in the Bible,obays every word in it, and loves Christ. You're not one.
I used to be a hippie, and this account is left of that time. But we've come off topic to much (thanks to Seamonster), which was LEVIATHAN. Not creationism vs. evolution.
No *real* proof for Atlantis (interesting that you brought that up, I've been busy thinking about it lately). But I believe in it. I say it went bye-bye in the flood. ( Bible says that before the flood, people were very intelligent, the people of Atlantis were too. )
Why don't you just come out and admit that your version of Christianity is feeling holier than thou. You not only disagree and look down upon non-christians, but also people who truly believe in it...why? What gives you this incredible knowledge of what it means to be a Christian. If I read your posts right, you haven't even been into it very long at all. You jumped in to the most extreme form of Christianity, seemingly out of nowhere, and now you are somehow superior to anyone else. Almost any Christian will tell you that there are many interpretations of the bible, but not you, somehow you immediately found the truth, and anyone who disagrees "isn't a Christian" When it comes down to it, you are just another little reblelious teen using religion to be arrogant and unyielding. Enjoy your little phase. Doesn't a true Christian turn the other cheek? Your beliefs are far too agressive to fit into that.
Used to be a hippie! Well well. Can't have lasted long. Unless you mean in a previous life. Good luck with the brain - perhaps one day it will begin to function properly.
quote: perhaps one day it will begin to function properly. I doubt it....maybe she'll become a "true Christian"and start popping out babies soon, after all she is of reproductive age and she needs to get started. Also she should already be married right, with a husband that tells her when to talk and when not to.
There is no reason to think that because just about every culture has myths about dragons that humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together. We can't use the spread of stories across cultures as any proof that those stories. Otherwise we should also believe in UFO's, ghosts, and the boogyman. People, from the past and now, are aware that giant reptiles exist because we have lived with them. Alligators and crocs, komodo dragons, iguanas, sea turtles, whales, giant squid these are all creatures that get very big - and be very mean. And what do we see when you mix the human imaginanation with large and creepy creatures? Over-embellishments of those creatures. Ever seen the movie Jaws? The sharks in our waters aren't that big - yet we seem to have imagined them up just the same. Ever seen the movie Anaconda? No anaconda gets that large either. So we can see how stories of mosters, dragons, sea monsters, etc... have been perpetuated by the human imagination all coming from creatures we have on the earth today. There is no scientific proof of humans existing at the same time as dinosaurs. First off, the only info I could find making the claim was from christian sites. Nohing actually scientific or remotely unbiased. And all there was regarding their evidence was claims of dinosaur paintings on cave walls, but those could easily be alligators, komodos, or the like since those things are large and scaley with tales, and we have no idea what the scale of the painting is on those cave walls.Another thing, if there was any real evidence the scientific community would be all over it - they love that kinda stuff. They live for scientific evidence of ANYTHING. They just want to find answers. The human footprints next to dino ones has been long since discredited. Not to mention people were making money by carving fake tracks in the rocks to sell. Here is some info: Those were just tidbits of the article, but the entire article on the story of the prints can be read here, and I suggest it as reading for anyone who actually still believes this old story. It covers it pretty thuroughly. http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/palx.htm And like I said, the only other "evidence" contrary I could find regarding the subject came from biblical internet sites, and their evidence was just generally reporting the old "giant man prints" story without adding any of the plethera of contradicting reasearch. Basically withholding contradicting information to make their position seem realistic. Fact of the matter is that there is no real evidence, let alone proof, that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. Just wanting something to be true does not make it evidence enough. Not only is that, but there actually is evidence to the contrary. It is silly to disregard it because we would like to believe differently on the subject.
