Legalising Cannabis

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Yebahead, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. HappyHippySoldierBoy

    HappyHippySoldierBoy Banned

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    Let me start again...


    This is all I really want. Actually BEING hooked on heroin is punishment enough for trying it in the first place, without prison to look forward to at the end. But you still can't argue FOR a law and then say that you aren't going to abide by it.
    Let's get this straight, although none of us stick to them all the time, Laws are supposed to be WHAT WE ARE & WHAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO.
    What YOU are suggesting is that only people who are reckless enough to disregard the law are allowed to take drugs.
     
  2. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    But you can't cherry-pick which laws you think deserve respect. Either you support the rule of law or you don't. You can't have it both ways.
     
  3. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    You're making some fairly sweeping assumptions. There's no textbook definition of decriminalisation. If something is decriminalised, it's up to the individual government how they implement this.

    Well I disagree. Who can dictate what is and isn't right for any individual? It's all very well when we can agree on the substance in question being harmful, as with smack. But what about when we don't? If you accept the principle of control, then everything is subject to it.

    I realise this wasn't directed at me, but yes, do think heroin should be legal. Criminalising it hasn't exactly kept abuse down, has it? Prohibition never works. It simply forces people into a criminal subculture and reduces the purity of the controlled substance.

    Yes and yes. I also had a 16yr old friend who ended up with a £200 per day smack habit.
     
  4. PIXIEFIED

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    nothings gonna get legalised anyway so i dont think non of it matters. the reason for prohibition as dok says is to force people into a criminal subculture. which makes people who aint actually doing anything bad into criminals, there for allowing more control over ther populas with there laws.
    i dont know any history on why drugs were prohibited in the first place, but im pretty sure the goverment doesnt want people addicted to drugs and commiting crimes to feed there habits to stop been addicted. even though thats the guise under which the police operate. if there was no smack heads etc robbing, that would be alot less crime, meaning not as much need for police, the world would would a slightly better for us mugs, and there grip on us would be slightly looser,
    aint gonna happen.
    thats my humble opinion anyway.
     
  5. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    I agree pretty much - but they don't mind people being addicted to booze or tobacco_Or TV. OK- they're cheap and easily available, so people are less likely to commit crime to pay for the habit, but so too could other drugs be if they were legal. Hence drugs being illegal creates crime and more crime. It all goes in circles really. It serves the 'divide and rule' principle very neatly.
    As you say, they're not going to legalize anything in reality anyway. Guess they'd better build more prisons......
     
  6. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Ever seen an alcoholic with DTs? It's not a pretty sight, yet the same govt. that bans heroin sanctions alcohol abuse and even takes money from the brewers etc.
    It is simple hypocrisy to say all drugs should be illegal, and still allow alcohol, a substance which may actually be more harmful physiologically than heroin. It is certainly more damaging phsycologically than cannabis. And far more likely to lead to violent crime.

    Also - this argument can be extended, and we can see that the govt etc don't give a shit about people fucking up their lives provided they do it in legal and approved ways. They send men to be killed and to kill others in wars, they allow capitalist industry to cause ireversible damage to the environment, they market cars with a top speed of 160 mph and sell them to teenagers etc etc etc...
     
  7. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    Yeh-good-point....

    How-does-a-government-decide-that-one-drug/thing-is-more-or-less-detremental-than-the-next?

    Anyone-got-any-stats-on-the-prorata-deaths/illnesses-sustained-by-each-drug-we-take/alcohol-we-drink/car-we-use-/food-we-eat??

    How-do-we-decide-the-boundaries-on-what-an-adult-can-decide-to-ingest/do-to-themselves?

    We-all-have-horror-stories-about-one-drug-or-another...I-think-we-all-agree-that-any-drug-has-the-potential-to-be-threatening-to-health-at-some-degree.

    Makes-you-wonder-why-people-take-drugs-at-all-dosn't-it?.....oh-yeh...I-remember...
     
  8. HappyHippySoldierBoy

    HappyHippySoldierBoy Banned

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    fuck it. fuick itall/ thstas what i think
     
  9. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    hahaha

    man,-i-really-need-to-get-my-finger-out-and-get-a-new-keyboard:&
     

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