Land O Lakes removes "Racist" native girl from packaging

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    it’s cultural appreciation
     
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  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    My 'concern' here is that you take my interference personal for no good reason.
    Another thing is that you set yourself up for this shit all the time, then blame it on the person who bothers to react critically. But you make these posts often exactly for such reactions.
    Like, you know how your sarcasm would be taken by some in this thread. After all, how tigh slapping hilarious was it.
    It was ment to test how other people would react to it (i acknowledge this may be a subconscious process but nevertheless).
    Then when people don't react in the way you find they should have, and in fact affirm your fear that they see something dubious in it, you generally take offense and lose your shit.

    In any way, im just saying how i see it. I saw someone coming in here being sarcastic over an issue you know the other one takes very serious, then together get into some drama with a similar connotation from another thread and you making clear you want to be understood that the comment she took the wrong way was just ment in good fun. I saw little interest or will to understand her. In fact, you declared you don't care.
     
  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'm not losing my shit, I'm not taking anything personal. I'm just doing me. :) and yeah, when I know someone's been carrying something for 9hrs I think they should recieve and understanding.

    I do get myself into these situations don't I. :smirk:
    That's cause I'm having fun and for having fun I will neither apologise for nor stop because that's why I'm here, for a bit of fun.

    The I don't care comments came afterward, because like I said all the way back there what's done is done and what will be will be. I've learned a lot from my previous involvement and past here. I learned that people are going to come into my "life" here and out of it and that I can't be spending all my emotions into these fictitious relationships and friendships I find myself in.

    But that's not me anymore, so although what you're saying was perfectly accurate, it's not for me anymore and I don't think I'll ever get back to a comfortable scenario where I am actually bothered by what people think of me or how I talk or take advice on something that quite frankly, I never asked for.

    Me back then was an emotional roller-coaster, but a well deserved and well fun adventurous roller-coaster lol. I've fixed a lot now, I've actually come a long way since about October last year. For the most part I feel like a whole new person, well at least in the brain and mind. Body still fucked. I'm in a really good place right now that I haven't even opened up about and that place and my mind and spirit healthy I just stopped caring as much.

    I've let go probably of at least 2 long term frienders I had here, no fucks given. I don't care. I don't even know if they know. :tearsofjoy: I realised that my emotion spent here was just a fantasy and illusion.

    Tbh, I think the lotta ya are a bunch of stooges :tearsofjoy: but you're my stooges, you're just there in a different aspect of my life now, something I'd consider a realistic approach to "social media". Things are just different for me now, for the time being anyway. :)
     
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  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Well, as long as you understand that you are regularly having fun on these matters in a way that is not apparent for your convo partner, or that they don't share your kind of fun when they do, and you will always be misunderstood by people in the situation of Bagel, or get critical questions it would be ok. But you seem to lack understanding and acceptance in that regard. So... you act like you countering me here is just banter. But we both know its also a serious attempt to deflect the criticism.
     
  5. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    No, I don't lack understanding. I know perfectly well what I'm doing. I'm not deflecting criticism at all, like I just stated, your feelings and opinions of me are no longer an important factor in my life. There's also one other factor, the perception of me on this forum is so far off who I actually think I am that any critisicm thrown against me to me is really at a fictitious person who doesn't really exist. I guess that Avatar would be Irminsul.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    The criticism is primarily directed at your content. Not at your person. And for someone who doesn't care you write an awful lot of feedback ;)
    I feel the overall perception on you is not as bad as you think. Like when some libtard tells you you must be a neonazi or something. That is not the consensus in a long shot. But the perception of you is influenced by your attempts to have fun with controversial topics and other peoples concerns. And that is not imagined or projected. In fact, you regularly declare that voluntarily. And you can never let it go when its pointed out either (which makes clear you do take it serious to certain extent).
     
  7. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I've always seen Iminsul as a fun loving poster. In fact I think I could like her very much IRL. I think a bunch of pages have been wasted here on a bunch of ado over nothing. This is the net. It's somewhat fruitless to imagine one could or can attempt to line every ones thinking or posting style to ones own.
     
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  8. nicolassequeira

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    I much agree. For instance, here's a respectful drawing of a Native American Guy I did today, contrasted with the offensive Chief Wahoo. As a Cartoonist, I've learned that there are respectful ways to draw people of certain ethnicities, believe it or not. So long as their features aren't exaggerated and they're seen as human, a drawing of this simplicity is respectful. Both of them have feathers, but one is racist and the other one isn't. See?

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  9. Tyrsonswood

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    Yeah, I see that... because you labeled them.
     
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  10. nicolassequeira

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    So would you be able to see that without the labels?

    Screenshot 2020-04-28 at 1.59.53 PM (1).png
     
  11. nicolassequeira

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    If there's no politically correct way to draw or represent people from a given ethnicity, then they'll never be represented or drawn.
     
  12. Asmodean

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    It doesn't have to be the drawing style that makes it discriminating or offensive. I think 'racist' is a too general term. It's just that native Americans take offense that a non native American company/brand uses it like that. I may hope is the origin of this. If it would be mainly certain white americans making a fuss over this because it 'could be offensive to others' I agree its a non issue.
     
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  14. nicolassequeira

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    I agree. This change was likely brought about because the white owners of Land O' Lakes butter believe that the design is too risky and they care only about money.
     
  15. nicolassequeira

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    I do say, quite sensitive.
     
  16. everything bagel

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    I'm not ignoring you. I just needed time. Also I'm busy. Also I didn't see any point in dragging this out. Yes the comment disappointed me and hurt but I'm not gonna be mad forever
     
  17. Asmodean

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    I apologize to y'all and Irmi for getting overly tenacious (again) :) Could let her have the last word..
     
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  18. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    Fuckin maturity right here. :)
    You two can be kinda swell.
     
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  19. Tyrsonswood

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    On Hip Forums?

    Wait one minute, it will stop.
     
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  20. everything bagel

    everything bagel Banned

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    I know you are but what am i?
     
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