Ladies: penetration or no penetration?

Agreed.

But while I don't disagree with your father's advice about watching your back, my reply to him is
"Easier said than done man".

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That being said though, media (TV, magazines, peer pressure; especially through social media, is now part of that environment in which girls are raised now. It's not just what parents tell them, and if their parents are dysfunctional, or are imposing an ideological view on their children which is hypocritical or illogical in it's expectations is also a HUGE factor in whether or not the said girl will be vulnerable and receptive to "seduction" by a guy, be it a good guy or a bad guy.

(But usually bad guys get their first because their assertive in ways that good guys are not assertive)

 

And his reply to woulda been "But not entirely impossible, when you mumble under your breath (which all kids do when they don't wanna do something) I can hear what you said because I can hear grass grow" that was a total mind fuck, still is, hahaha.