King Blair is Gone! Long Live King Brown!

According to Prince Bandar himself, all such dealings contain kickbacks and such corruption is the norm in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the mideast.

If it hadn't been true, why was the investigation stopped? Certainly not because it wasn't finding anything. It's already been admitted by the highest level of gov't that to pursue investigating the payoffs would damage relations between Saudi Arabia and the UK. That is how they stopped it, not because it wasn't true, but because the truth would be so damaging, it would ruin relations, and of COURSE, it would cost BAE a LOT OF MONEY in lost contracts, litigation, and possibly prison time for those who made illegal payoffs.

So it's fine if the British gov't breaks its own laws, International laws, the trust of its own people, so long as a profit is to made. So what if it has helped the arms buildup in the mideast continue unabated.

It's corruption like this that Britain has encouraged around the world for many centuries now. Nothing has changed. Corrupt gov'ts bleed their people and resources dry so a few corrupt leaders can pocket a few billion, and share holders get extra dividends. Meanwhile the world is on the brink of WWIII, but hey, some Brits made a handsome profit, who the fuck cares?

 

Yes, so unfair to accuse the ONE PERSON with the power to prevent the IRAQ war from acting too hastily, following Bush blindly, not considering what would happen AFTER an Invasion of Iraq, not considering what HISTORY has shown would happen in Iraq, not considering the ethnic hatreds that have been simmering for centuries, etc.

When gov'ts rush to war based on flimsy evidence, it is because they planned to go to war ANYWAY. That is what hindsight and history teaches us. We all know the Iraq war was planned well before 9/11. They just needed a good excuse and when one wasn't forthcoming, they INVENTED SOME EXCUSES. That is what hindsight tells us. It usually reveals the truth, even though a LOT OF PEOPLE, like you refuse to recognize it.

I'm sure Bush & Blair were kept in the dark on a lot of things, like the source of the Anthrax attacks because to know about that would put a leader in a compromised position if it became public. It's called "need to know". Bush and Blair didn't need to know every dirty trick, because they have "people" to deal with such issues. Nixon's problem was his micromanaging everything, and so he was caught on tape showing he KNEW about the Watergate break-in.

Likewise you can be sure the likes of Rove and Cheney know so many of the details because they were intimately involved in the dirty tricks, that they've had to classify everything they do TOP SECRET. Not to protect the American public, but their own skins. If the truth were known today, Cheney and Rove would be hanging from the White House portico.

If you want to talk about lies, we'll probably have to wait until there is a FREELY ELECTED, democratic or independent president and congress before the truth can be told. They've already shredded millions of documents, classified the rest, and deleted millions of emails. Oh, yes I'm sure it was all by "accident". Of course everyone who RECEIVED an email should still have a copy on their own computers, so it should be possible to find them all, but do you see an effort like that going on - NO! Deleting those emails is an ILLEGAL ACT, but no one is being held responsible, even though a simple log entry would reveal who did it. They can find a hacker in a minute but to find out who deleted 5 million republican emails will take a decade, you watch.

 

Uh, thanks for reminding me what about Blair did to the BBC. I've always been an avid BBC fan, and after this little altercation with the "sexed up dossier", you might've noticed a slight change in the BBC itself.

Not only did the Blair gov't replace the management of the BBC, but the BBC charter was changed, wasn't it?

The BBC which had been highly critical of the attempt to go to war in Iraq, who had presented more TRUTH about what was going on than the British gov't did, who had actually DONE IT'S JOB of investigative journalism, was suddenly reduced to towing the "party" line on Iraq.

As of that day, the BBC ceased to be an objective, investigative medium. Blair evicerated the BBC, cut out it's journalistic heart, leaving the network a compliant propaganda outlet for Blair.

Since then I have NOT SEEN one story truly critical of the Blair gov't. Now all it does is report prescreened copy, just like American networks do. The BBC is now barely more "fair and balanced" than FoxNews. It's lost it edge, it's piercing commentary, it's investigative journalism and is but a shell of what it was.

So it's no wonder that when I criticize Blair I'm met with disbelief, because your media is now controlled by Rupert Murdock, and the truth is but a memory in Britain now.

Think of all the INVESTIGATIONS that could be ongoing by the BBC, which it will no longer touch. Was the BBC involved in the BAE scandal? I think not. Is the BBC investigating ANYTHING about the Blair gov't anymore? HUH? I can't remember ANY big revelation by the BBC since the sexed up dossier. Am I missing something (again I don't live in the UK, so you need to supply what I'm not seeing).

 

I find this quote amusing, considering the fact that given Thatcher's secret agreement the truth is that Britain's nuclear deterrent is totally dependent upon America's whims.

I doubt the Brits can push the button without an American OK first.

So much for independence and sovereignity.

If you think it's odd that we are doing what we are telling the Iranians they can't do, I wrote earlier in this thread that I think the US should INVADE the UK to remove their WMD before Al-Qaeda terrorists get them and use them against the US.

IMO, those British WMD are far more of a threat than Saddam's WMD ever were. And the British WMD probably work!

 

Uh, don't forget Iran is surrounded on FOUR SIDES by US and British forces! Half of America's military is surrounding Iran! Wouldn't you be a bit paranoid?

It's American & British aggression and imperialism that has forced Iran down this path. Rather than negotiate with Iran, for what $$$profit is there in that, we would rather attack, invade and nuke that country.

By isolating Iran we have left them with few options, and ourselves as well.

It is the absolute FAILURE of politics and corrupt politicians in America and Britain that causes the world now to face an impending WWIII.

 

Yes, don't expect ANY LESS than these latest British terrorists to be tied into Iran somehow. If there is no connection, they will invent one.

The anti-Iran propaganda is now in high gear. Look at today's news. You can't find a single story about someone dying in Iraq without Iran being mentioned in the same breath...

Just because Iranian sourced weapons are being used against allied forces in Iraq, it's all a big conspiracy on the part of Iran's gov't. Just like it's all a conspiracy on the part of the British and US gov'ts when weapons made in their countries find their way into enemy hands, right?

In fact the Iranian air force is nothing more than an American conspiracy because America built and sold all those aging fighter jets.

Likewise Donald Rumsfeld was part of the Saddam conspiracy to use WMD on his own people because he helped with the sale of poison gas to Saddam.

 

oooh, oooh, I've got a good one! The gasoline that was spread over the seats in the car that attacked Glasgow airport, was sourced in Iran, therefore the attack was an Iranian plot against Britain.

There ya go! NUKE 'EM NOW!

 

Here's a perfect example of TWO points I've recently made in this thread.

Here, the BBC is tying in deaths in Iraq with an Iranian conspiracy (based upon American propaganda).

Likewise the BBC is proving itself to be a propaganda arm of the British gov't, seeking to justify a new war against Iran, while failing to do any investigative journalism itself on this issue!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6260690.stm

It's really sad that Brits haven't bothered to put up a fuss that their beloved BBC's excellent reputation for journalism has been trashed, and it now only reports approved propaganda.

Apparently Brits haven't a clue what they're missing (THE TRUTH).

 

According to this story the British are about to "retreat" to the Basra Airport where supposedly their numbers will be reduced to 1,500.

But notice the disclaimer: "this could be changed by surprise political annoucements". Uh, can't IMAGINE what that might be...

Looks to me like the British are retreating because they're getting ready for "full on war with with Iran". The only safe place for them will be on ONE large well defended base, esp. a base where they can make a hasty retreat back to Britain should the fighting not go their way.

If anything it looks like Britain is already retreating, with it's tail between it's legs.

Why waste soldiers when your MERCENARY ARMY of private contractors runs into the tens of thousands? Let the higher paid private contractors die in service of PROFITS.

 

So it turns out the mastermind for the group that attacked London and Glasgow is a Kurdish doctor from Iraq. So that points to Iraq, and British troops occupying that country as the likely motivation for the most recent attacks in the UK.

RIGHT?

Oh, no they won't be satisfied with that, no way! They MUST find an Iranian connection to justify Britain attacking Iran.

Wanna lay odds Iran will be linked to that "islamist terror group"? Just watch this unfold...