I've been wanting to talk about this stuff for awhile now. I just want to get this off my chest. So I recently acquired some shrooms but I'm a bit nervous about having another psychedelic experience. I typically trip alone because everyone I know is too afraid of psychedelics. I've had experience with LSD twice (first drug I ever did). Not sure the dosage but had a great time both times. Guessing around 100ug for the first and around 50-60ug for the second (which was actually disappointing). I've also done 25i NBOMe about 20 or so times. I honestly kinda abused the use of 25i as I tripped about once a week for about 2-3 months (I started slowing down with how frequently I tripped later), though I no longer wish to do 25i ever again. My dosages for the 25i started out as 1.2mg for awhile, got upped to about 1.8mg for awhile, and got lowered to 600ug because I started hating the body load and overall unhealthy feeling with 25i (and sometimes tripping really heavily, at least on 25i, kind of creeped me out for some reason...part of it was while listening to music, certain instruments in a song would often drop flat, out of key, which sounded so creepy but awesome. I'd also have this quiet, extremely bizarre high pitch sound enter my ears when tripping heavily, that I described while tripping as "creepy classical music"). The last few trips, I almost just felt like I was laying there having a heart attack (especially for the hour or so right after I'd smoke a bowl) because 25i is way too physically stimulating (I got good at keeping myself calm through it though). I realized that there can be only so much physical pleasure before you have to leave your body to continue on in pleasure (which doesn't really make sense, as the physical drug wouldn't still be in you if your body was dead, lol). I almost felt like something or someone was trying to get me to "continue on in pleasure" out of my body. I didn't "go" because I knew the 25i wouldn't still be in me if my body was dead. But then something really weird happened (well actually I don't quite remember if it was the same trip, or the trip after but it doesn't matter much): last time I tripped on 600ug of 25i, I was having a pretty typical, decent trip until around 3/4th into it. I had taken a few Etizolam (which I know can cause amnesia) to help with anxiety and the heart attack-like symptoms. It happened when I smoked a bowl for the 2nd time (I think it was the 2nd) of this trip. I was just sitting around listening to music and thinking about stuff when I suddenly got this idea that my life is so great and perfect, and I didn't need to do drugs anymore (not that I started to do them to cope with any negativity). I got this urge to run around and announce to everyone in town that "everything's great and I don't need to do drugs anymore" (lmao). Then it hit me that I couldn't trust my judgement right now so I stuck a note on my door telling me that I'm still tripping and not to leave. It was around then that I suddenly got the weirdest mindfuck of my life. I kept suddenly kept forgetting things that had JUST HAPPENED or that I'd JUST thought of and I was aware of the EXACT moment I'd forget. It was a very strange feeling. I literally couldn't help but speak all of my thoughts out loud (no other people were around). It's like I couldn't keep my thoughts in my mind. I started reading everything in rhythms and song (kind of like Catatonic Schizophrenia), but that part I thought was actually cool. I started telling myself out loud (as I couldn't really keep my thoughts in my head) that I shouldn't do 25i anymore, as it's bad for my brain. About 15 seconds later I suddenly thought it was God talking through me, telling me not to do the 25i (which may or may not have been true, I do believe in God, but I don't think it was Him at that point). Nothing like any of that has ever happened to me before, even when I've tripped really heavily, and it's made me nervous about doing psychedelics again. Also (this one should be a bit humorous to you), there was this one trip I had (a different trip, awhile before this last one) where I'd had this vision of a sun with an odd looking smiley face and I heard this voice (in the vision, not audibly) calling my name in a really high, falsetto voice. It was the same voice my dad would sometimes talk to me when I was really little. I was sobbing the entire vision, and I wasn't and still am not sure if the crying was happy or sad crying (the "happy or sad?" crying thing has happened on a few other trips as well). But almost every time I think about or remember that vision, I start crying again (though I manage to stop it), even as I was writing this. I really hope I didn't emotionally fuck myself up or something. I actually feel a little better just posting this, lol. As I said, I really want to do the shrooms/continue with psychedelics, but I don't like that amnesia-mindfuck thing that happened; and it was only on 600ug of 25i (and a bowl of weed). I don't mean to sound like my life has become worse since starting psychedelics. I've become alot more sanguine and tend to be in a good mood all the time now, rather than melancholy all the time, which I'm happy about. I've also realized how beautiful and perfect life itself is; something I always took for granted. There's alot more personal stuff too that I won't get into. Any similar experiences/suggestions/comments?
25I is a strange trip, the 2 strangest hallucinations I recall from it right now was this holographic alien 'keyboard' appearing in front of me, I didn't mess with it at all, I got the impression if I was to mess with it, it was going to suck me in or take me to some weird place. The other hallucinations was like a tentacle with an eyeball similar to the movie the Matrix coming out of my wall but it would hold form for a few seconds than recede back into the wall and come back out and transform into something else. Mushrooms feels more organic than 25i-nbome and while it can feel energetic, it's usually not an overtly stimulating trip. There can be memory impairment with shrooms and I suggest that you don't take any benzos or similar type of drugs in combination but mushrooms are a quality trip worth exploring.
Lol that must've been interesting. Thanks for the response. It's just so strange how that mindfuck thing suddenly happened for the first time out of nowhere lol. It really caught me off guard. Especially since 25i is supposed to be (and almost always is) a clear-headed trip.
I agree, go with the shrooms. I don't like the sound of 25i, it might be influenced by all the shit about it being sold as acid, but.. I dunno. Just sounds like a bit of a "meh" trip. Visuals do sound pretty cool, but I like a bit of substance to go along with the visuals, which the NBOMEs seem to lack. Mushrooms be can nasty little shits, but they're my favourite psychedelic that I've munched so far. Animalistic and raw.. kinda like what you'd feel like if a big cat roared from 2ft behind you, with added reverb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo8a0IhD-5Q"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo8a0IhD-5Q And then the usual, introspection, extrospection(?), balance blah blah deep.. soul shit.
mushrooms are amazing. I just had an amazing trip on them. Take them on empty stomach. But try to eat on them. For me its flooring. I was on the floor laughing my ass off. visuals are amazing.
NBOMEs unfortunately seem to cause memory blackouts in many people, as well as just generally strange trips.
and the Etizolam probably didn't help your memory either. as far as the "mindfuck" aspect of the trip, i would chalk that up to the weed. i just wrote in another thread that even though i smoke everyday, i have to be pretty careful about smoking when i'm tripping. it has led to some very bizarre times on psychedelics. i recall one of those times being on 25i+25c (which i only tried twice). i started to feel like i couldn't breath well or heart issues after smoking i think. plus 25i is some weird shit, and not much is known about it. i've cried a decent number of times on LSD. tripping can be a very emotional thing. if you saw some importance in the vision you had and hearing a voice like your dad's....if it's a thing that stuck with you, i wouldn't call that emotionally fucking yourself up.
Thanks, everyone. Yeah, I was wondering if it was the weed. I'll probably wait until the actual trip part is over if I smoke again during a trip. I've had a couple very emotional trips that led to crying, but this time was just kinda different..maybe just because of how bizarre it was, lol.
25i-nbome can be plenty mindfucking on its own, I think that should be made clear to hopefully avoid some uneccessary trips to the hospital. While it may vary from the acid ideal of mindfuck, its clear that if you read a few of these NBOME threads, Nbome can cause a radical shift in consciousness for many, resembling a 'fugue' type state. I haven't smoked weed once while taking 25i-nbome, and I had one nbome trip in particular which had me far out there, barely holding on to some sembalance of consensual reality and I've tripped quite a bit.
Ya 25i can give you major mindfuck i had my hardest trip on 25i. It definatly causes memory blackouts and all sorts of other mindfuckery you dont usualy get from lsd or shrooms.
Thanks guys. Another weird thing is that almost every time SWIM smokes weed, SWIM litrealy starts tripping. It's sort of a unique trip; unlike any psychedelics I've had, says SWIM. SWIM's gotten kinda used to it so SWIM remains calm throughout it and enjoys it (..SWIM is high right now, lmao) especially if SWIM lowers his tolerance (like now). I've heard doing psychedelics regularly can cause this. Anyone else get this wonderful effect (,says SWIM)? :sunny:
