Kim Davis - Unethical

I was not trying to garner sympathy. Why is it so hard for you even try to get my point? Yes, that woman being hunted down and killed over this would be a tragedy, are you kidding me? She deserves death?

I kinda doubt this woman has made any death threats or is anywhere close to an Islamic terrorist. Holy over exaggeration Batman!
That's the whole thing...you think I am making a fool of myself and I think you are....and there it goes...on and on.


Not one of ya even tried to understand my point, you are letting your anger cloud any reasoning. She will be fired for not doing her job,there is no doubt about that. But try to understand her feelings for her religion and about gay marriage is as strong as your feelings about her. Instead of behaving like an angry mob, try changing her mind by decent behavior. This simply garners more hate. So go ahead and hate on me for my opinion.

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword
Like punching underwater
You never can hit who you're trying for
Some need the exhibition
And some have to know they tried
It's the chemical weapon
For the war that's raging on inside
Oh, everyone believes
From emptiness to everything
Oh, everyone believes
And no one's going quietly "

 

Uhhmmm, your narrow mindedness is screaming out.

WE ALL GET AND UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.......
Why can't you grasp that the vast majority of us here and across the globe think you are completely WRONG.

As I said in that thread, do you ever consider that I and others have arrived at our opinions after much consideration of the topic?????????????

Of course you don't because you are operating under the arrogant and self-centered thought that if we don't agree with you then we must not have;
1) listened to you
2) fully understood your point
3) do not know the facts/particulars of the topic
4) just taken a dislike to you.


do you ever consider that you're wrong in this instance and that passivity isn't always the solution??????


concerning my "exaggeration", how long do you think it will be before threats of violence are levied at someone or something over all this???
Tellin' ya, those extreme right winger Christian factions certainly do have a track record of violence and threats of violence towards others.
Just the fact that those assholes "Oathkeepers" are rallying to her defense indicates that violence is NOT off the table as far as they are concerned.

Ask yourself, just how do those "Oathkeepers" plan on preventing her being arrested again if not through violent means???????????



Oathkeepers......LOL....fucking ironic that they are going to protect an "Oathbreaker".....LOL
fucking in-bred morons.


Remember, it may be Kim Davis' face, but this is plain and simple a civil rights case.

As I asked before, would your opinion be different if it were a mixed raced couple denied their civil rights???

Shale takes it much more on a personal level as he has been subjected to such discrimination against gays personally and is rather open and adamant about it.
For me it is a matter of principle and even if I hated gays and felt they were scum, I would STILL MAINTAIN MY POSITION ON THIS CASE BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT PERSONAL CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND LAW.

ps, I have no personal ill will towards you, I just VERY STRONGLY disagree with your stance on this as. this is another one of those seemingly minor occurrences that will most likely have far reaching consequences.
It's shit like this that gets laws written or changed. Imagine what this country would be like if everyone felt as you do and "avoided negative energy" rather than standing up for their rights.

 

No, she won't. She can't be fired.

Four couples are suing Kim Davis and the county. Two same sex couples and two straight couples were denied their marriage licenses by her..

No marriage licenses have been issued in Rowan County since June because of Kim Davis.

Zip. Zero. Zilch.

There was every reason to arrest her for contempt of court.

 

IMO, TRUE BELIEVERS make damn fools of themselves, as everyone knows---humans are NOT privy to the cause, the reason and the why of existence.

Faith in a particular set of ancient or not so ancient writings that lay out how humans came to be and how their conduct should square with

those writings is an exercise in futility. And so it comes down to a fool of a woman who just KNOWS what she has to do, regardless of that by which we attempt to call ourselves civilized---The Law. She chose to disobey The law.

IMO, everyone should be agnostic, comport themselves in a reasonable manner towards ALL others and quit the bullshit. Religion is not helping

to pull humans together--but is still around dividing humans even more than ever now.

A question: What was the state of religion-say-a million years ago?

Answer: there was none until humans "came along." Deal with it.

 

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Now that's something in the literature I can get behind.

 

Today, Davis and her lawyers filed a petition with the court of appeals.

"Her lawyers filed a petition Friday with the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals asking the court to halt an order by a district judge requiring that marriage licenses be issued to all couples seeking them," http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kim-davis-expanded-order


Meanwhile, one has to wonder what bigger news is slipping under the rug while this woman keeps up with this.

 

Jeezus...there's more.

The govenor petitioned the court of appeals asking them to drop the case; but, she "Davis is suggesting that the District Judge’s insistence that she give marriage licenses to all couples has resulted in “immediate and irreparable injury to her individual religious liberty and free speech rights” and that she’s now “facing immediate and substantial harm and consequences for exercising her individual constitutional and statutory rights.”



https://www.queerty.com/kim-davis-has-filed-motion-claiming-she-has-sustained-irreparable-injury-20150911

 

With the Oath Keepers coming in, I wonder how many lives might be sacrificed in an endeavor to make America believe it needs to have citizens' guns taken away.

How much is this woman being paid?

(Just wondering aloud).

 

Its funny how christians think they can "interpret" their ways around the parts of the bible that don't make sense. Religion is just as relevant as time, thats why I feel its illogical to follow any religion. You're just a victim of circumstance, and religion is just another brick in the wall.

 

Also its the job of the penal system to take away your freedom, not the job of the county clerk to take away the right to marry.

 

The fact that her attorney surely knows that she can't win anything in court, and is making money while stirring up shit, AND wasting taxpayer money, bothers me almost as much as her not doing her job.

I'm going to sue her stupid ass for being the root cause of my elevated blood pressure.

 

Her celebrity is huge!



Erected, in Kim Davis' hometown, by the non-profit, Planting Peace. http://www.plantingpeace.org/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kim-davis_55f33486e4b042295e3653f0

 

A marriage license application may be denied . Traditionally , this concerns public health and genetics in the
hills of Kentucky . No , you may not marry your sister . But , we are Lesbian ! Then the reason for a license does
not exist .

Once I was a celebrated man in Morehead , Kentucky . Oh , the parties ! Every night ! The banjos ! The woman
at the coffee shop ! Sassafras , baby , sassafras ... that's existence .

 

Of course, the original version didn't say either. It's in koine Greek. The word which Pieceofmyheart's Bible renders as "homosexuals" and KJV renders as "abusers of themselves with mankind" is arsenkotoi (ἀρσενοκοῖται), which literally means "man bedder". That sounds like some kind of homosexual for sure, but it was slang, and the issue is did it refer to the same thing that is leading gay folks to want marriage licenses from Ms. Davis. Paul's use is thought to be the earliest use of the term, although I think Philo of Alexandria used it as well, and one or the other may have coined it. The fact that Paul also condemns malakoi,which literally means "soft" (translated by KJV as "effeminate) adds to the puzzlement. At times this was thought to include masturbation, and raises the question whether it's referring to limp wrists as well as the passive role in homosexual activity. The real issue is whether or not Paul was condemning all same sex relations, including loving, committed ones, or varieties of the lustful kind. It's interesting that homosexuality is the main thing so many people remember about
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which also condemns idolators,fornicators,thieves, the covetous, drunkards, revilers, and swindlers.

It's interesting that while Jesus had nothing at all to say about homosexuality, He had plenty to say about divorce, which he considered to be a form of adultery. In that respect, Ms. Davis, a serial monogamist in her fourth marriage and mother of children out of wedlock, is an unlikely poster child for the sanctity of marriage.

 

I can't think of a more important issue than the rule of law, which is what is at issue here. Ms. Davis and her admirers seem to be asserting the notion that there is a Higher Law that trumps civil law, that they know better than the judges what it is, and that they are free to ignore the civil law when their conscience dictates. Of course, some admirable people like Gandhi and Martin Luther King, had similar ideas, but they weren't public officials who had taken oaths of office to uphold the laws of the land. If Ms. Davis' point of view prevailed, people's rights would be contingent upon the religious predilections of the public officials charged with enforcing them. As for driving to another county, that's assuming there is another county whose clerks haven't been infected by the Davis virus. The principle that God's law trumps human law was in vogue during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries and led to violence and bloodshed. Been there, done that.

As I understand it, Ms. Davis' lawyer has filed an appeal based on the theory that since the gays in the original court case seeking licenses got them while Ms. Davis was behind bars, they not longer have a beef, and if Ms. Davis denies licenses to future gays, they aren't covered by the court's earlier ruling. It should be obvious to anyone why that theory can't be allowed. Once a court has upheld a legal principle, that should settle it , and public officials shouldn't be able to ignore it and force each individual affected to take them to court in order to get relief. And the arrival of the Oath Keepers, threatening to obstruct enforcement of a court order, draws the line in the sand. We need to uphold the law by making and example of Ms. Davis if she continues to defy it.

 

That is what scares me...that her action may set a prescedent and others (especially in my state and nearby states) may try this.

When federal law made same sex marriage legal everywhere, I thought every state in the nation would have to obey, or at least would be made to obey this law.

It never occured to me (Southern stupidity? ) that there would be people like this woman...especially this woman, in fact! That she would have "followers" when her own life is anything BUT to be "followed" is horrifying in its own way. good grief

 

Survivor, on the use of their song at Kim Davis' release:

Survivor founding member and "Eye of the Tiger" co-writer Jim Peterik sent a statement to Billboard making clear that the band did not authorize the song's use at Tuesday's rally.
"I was very surprised and dismayed at the misuse of the song I co-wrote with Frankie Sullivan for Rocky lll," he said. "The song has motivated thousands through the years to reach beyond their limits. Its use for the release of Kim Davis does not support my views or my politics. I have contacted my publishers to make sure this usage is stopped immediately."
Sullivan, meanwhile, took to Facebook to let his followers know he did not support Davis' crusade. "We did not grant Kim Davis any rights to use 'My Tune -The Eye Of The Tiger.' I would not grant her the rights to use Charmin!" he wrote.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6686080/survivor-kentucky-county-clerk-kim-davis-eye-tiger-rally

 

Salman Rushdie nailed it in his talk on Bill Maher's show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=229&v=EmMyrt_Vbew


He's faced death threats from Muslim extremists who called his writings "blasphemous".

 

I guess Kim Davis did not want to go back to jail today.


"Despite her assertion that her deputies don't have her authority to issue marriage licenses, Rowan County Deputy Clerk Brian Mason issued a license this morning to the first same-sex couple to apply after Davis' return to the office. Davis never left her office during the process." http://abcnews.go.com/US/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-licenses-issued-authority/story?id=33737136

 

It will come down to money anyway, like it always does

If and when some of those couples start the lawsuits, those around her will find a way to either limit her, get rid of her, work around her.

Even in government, even with elected officials, there is always a way